do you guys know hms 90. it is a great product to fight against suffering and reduc hair fall off. my cousin suffered from breast cancer and hms 90 helped her recovering very fast. it is amazing what this product can do. I recommend. i did not believe first but when i suggest this to my cousin i was surprised to see the benefic. if anybody would like more info. let me know. jiji
MZB wrote:> > hmmmm... somehow this doesn't pass my smell test.>
I was skeptical, too. Do a web search on hms90.
That company's "distributors" have been pests here for years, even going so far as to "harass" Steph into wanting to meet with him. Strongly suggest plonking the poster if she comes here with "documenttion" from the company. We've been down that road before (over and over, very persistant and aggressive people to the point of the claimed owners coming here)...
Plonk the name of the company as well, if possible, when seen in the body of a message.
The smell test is more accurate than a PSA or CEA test!!
mEL "J" <studras@anon.inv> wrote in message news:43C8098B.3E1DC48B@execulink.com...> clifto wrote:>
MZB wrote:>> > hmmmm... somehow this doesn't pass my smell test.>>
I was skeptical, too. Do a web search on hms90.>
That company's "distributors" have been pests here for years, even going > so> far as to "harass" Steph into wanting to meet with him.> Strongly suggest plonking the poster if she comes here with "documenttion"> from the company.> We've been down that road before (over and over, very persistant and> aggressive people to the point of the claimed owners coming here)...>
Plonk the name of the company as well, if possible, when seen in the body > of> a message.>
Clifto: Case Study Review is the first step in a finding new treatments. As a cancer patient I find them interesting since often that would be the doctor I would want treating me since there is an interest in that particular cancer. Obviously most of us don't have the time or resources to travel for extended treatment but often an email to the author would point you in the direction of our physicians in the field closer to your home and often the author will update if further research is being done or it was not worth pursuing. The point being it is not a cure all paper, but often can get you more information. Alex
I am new to this newsgroup, but am not new to HMS 90.> 1 year ago my husband was diagnosed with liver cancer(20cm growth of> tumors in left lobe) that metastisized to his bowels and diaphragm.> They said he only has 2 months to a maximum of 1 yr to live.> I knew I would have to seek alternative medicine for his survival.>
He has survived past his 1 yr anniversary on January 12/06. And is> doing very very well. The doctors now call him a miracle. So do we!!
1 year ago my husband was diagnosed with liver cancer(20cm growth of> tumors in left lobe) that metastisized to his bowels and diaphragm.> They said he only has 2 months to a maximum of 1 yr to live.> I knew I would have to seek alternative medicine for his survival.
Desperate people do desperate things.
He has survived past his 1 yr anniversary on January 12/06. And is> doing very very well. The doctors now call him a miracle.
Prognosticating is not an exact science. We've had people with advanced colon cancer live for 2 or 3 years and some for 4 or 5 months. The liver is the 2nd largest organ in the body, a good part of your husband's liver is still functioning. J
If my husband did NOT do something to help himself he would be DEAD. People are at this forum to find ALTERNATIVE methods/medicine and support for this disease. They are NOT here so that SKEPTICS can destroy any hope they may have to try to SAVE their own lives.
"We support people, not people who've lost their minds, because they're so desperate."
Words WILL NOT CURE THEM!!!!! Yes we were desperate because modern medicine told him to go and DIE. I am assuming YOU would go home and DIE. He is ALIVE and doing excellent. Thanks to Alternative medicine. What else can I say.
"SS" <breemorgana@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1138131453.329466.39380@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...>
If my husband did NOT do something to help himself he would be DEAD.> People are at this forum to find ALTERNATIVE methods/medicine and> support for this disease.> They are NOT here so that SKEPTICS can destroy any hope they may have> to try to SAVE their own lives.>
You can't assume that some silly alty product did anything. I'm very happy your husband is alive, but it's in spite of HMS 90, not because of it
"SS" <breemorgana@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1138135391.728895.179890@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...> Oh yes> My husband THANKS YOU SO MUCH for not being his wife.> HE would be DEAD thanks to you.>
Madam, you need to get a grip, and lay off the caps key
SS wrote:> Why are there so many skeptics on this site????> I really believe the skeptics don't even have cancer, or they would> TRY ANYTHING to stay alive. Because by that time nothing else matters> anymore except to save your life.
I just had to comment on this.
I have terminal lung cancer. I would be willing to participate in anything that would change that dx. I would not however, pay for something that has not gone through the proper testing. If this is so great, then why don't they do the testing required to prove that it really works? Is it because it would not past the test?
When I am approached with the "cure" and the be all and end all treatments that cures everything, that is the question I ask. If you truly have the "cure", then prove it. Do the testing that proves to the world that this works, spend the money and the time. Once you have done that, then I'll give you my money.
I don't need anyone telling me what to believe or not believe......... the proof is in the willingness to spend the money and time to do the proper research.
I may be sick but that doesn't make me stupid.............. Penny
Here is a web link to a study done, it is hard to understand, but most> studies are if you are not familiar with medical terminology.
[..snipped PubMed study.] For a claimed "medical professional", you don't read too good. That's in-vitro. There's millions of PubMed studies that claim to have anti-cancer (or other) properties.
If this company that you keep "spamming" here, wants to be taken seriously, all they have to do is get their product(s) into clinical trials (in the US or Canada).
As you said yourself, "representatives" (read: distributors) have harrassed this newsgroup for many years and the answer will always be the same. Get it into clinical trials. They've had the time. They have not gotten it into clinical trials. They've posted about since 1995. They can't be too serious, since they haven't enrolled in clincial trials (yet). If they have, show us and the webpage must start with http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ (and that's where to search for their products or here) http://nccam.nih.gov/clinicaltrials/ (complementary products) Clinical trials are medical research studies designed to answer specific questions about new therapies, procedures, or treatments, by testing them in people. This carefully conducted research helps to determine if the therapy is safe and effective.
Steph wrote:> "SS" <breemorgana@yahoo.com> wrote in message> news:1138250406.864900.251530@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...>> POINTLESS.>>
I am sooooooo glad I never found this forum prior to my husband's>> using HMS 90>>
HE WOULD BE DEAD.>>
I do have proof, in fact living proof. (my husband.)>>
I'm really glad your husband is doing well.> It's just sad that you are so blind to the reasons.\
SS:
You know, I had a younger cousin with 3 beautiful children, ages 8 to 12. She believed in the so called miracle cures after she found out that she had ovarian cancer. In fact she was so sure after reading and listening to people like you that she is dead now.
I still get very angry when I read stuff like this because of that. There was no need for her to die. Instead of listening to the likes of you she should of been listening to a reputable doctor. She would still be alive today. Penny
I am sooooooo glad I never found this forum prior to my husband's using> HMS 90>
HE WOULD BE DEAD.>
I do have proof, in fact living proof. (my husband.)>
Since your patter has been of the nature of snake oil, and we know the difference, I must doubt that you might even have a husband, much less than having one in harms way.
You are right, there is a ton of useless stuff out there and we tried some of them. However, when his HAIR GREW BACK after FALLING out taking chemo, I knew there had to be something to HMS 90. Like my previous posts have stated (4 doctors sent him home to die) what other choice did we have??????
.I am truly sorry I wasted my time and yours. I should have been spending it with MY HUSBAND!!!!
"SS" <breemorgana@yahoo.com> wrote in message> > POINTLESS.> >
I am sooooooo glad I never found this forum prior to my husband's using> > HMS 90> >
HE WOULD BE DEAD.> >
I do have proof, in fact living proof. (my husband.)> >
I'm really glad your husband is doing well.> It's just sad that you are so blind to the reasons.
Well, she's acting like an MLM distributor here. However, if she gave her husband's last name and initial and the onc's name, would you call him/her up? What if (s)he's (the onc) has a small group of patients, same diagnosis, same chemo and only one (her husband) is tolerating the treatment well (due to the HMS) and tumors are responding to treatment? J
"J" <studras@anon.inv> wrote in message news:43D92F38.F17593F3@execulink.com...> Steph wrote:>
"SS" <breemorgana@yahoo.com> wrote in message>> > POINTLESS.>> >
I am sooooooo glad I never found this forum prior to my husband's using>> > HMS 90>> >
HE WOULD BE DEAD.>> >
I do have proof, in fact living proof. (my husband.)>> >
I'm really glad your husband is doing well.>> It's just sad that you are so blind to the reasons.>
Well, she's acting like an MLM distributor here.> However, if she gave her husband's last name and initial and the onc's > name,> would you call him/her up?
Absolutely not. The onc isn't the problem.
What if (s)he's (the onc) has a small group of patients, same diagnosis, > same> chemo and only one (her husband) is tolerating the treatment well (due to > the> HMS) and tumors are responding to treatment?> J>
Gemcitabine is the standard therapy, and most people tolerate it very well. It's clear that this silly woman has lost all power of reason.
I still don't care what you say. Your constant combativeness shows you to be a scam with an agenda for your own purposes. You are really not here to assist those of who have/had cancer, and are trying to cope with your childishness. Please leave us alone.
I still don't care what you say. Your constant combativeness shows you
to be a scam with an agenda for your own purposes. You are really not here to assist those of who have/had cancer, and are trying to cope with your childishness. Please leave us alone.
Please show me a posting asking ANY of you for $$$$. The idle chit chat that all of you skeptics do, will NOT save anyone's life. What else do YOU have to offer this forum???
J wrote If this company that you keep "spamming" here, wants to be taken seriously, all they have to do is get their product(s) into clinical trials (in the US or Canada).
Since your patter has been of the nature of snake oil, and we know the difference, I must doubt that you might even have a husband, much less than having one in harms way.
Please take your lies elsewhere. ________________-
Lies lies lies????? Here is an IN VITRO study of glutathione, which HMS90 provides.
You can't assume that some silly alty product did anything. I'm very happy your husband is alive, but it's in spite of HMS 90, not because of it _______________________
silly alty product????? What does this IN VITRO study suggest about glutathione?? The main ingredient HMS90 provides to the cells.
SS wrote:> J wrote> If this company that you keep "spamming" here, wants to be taken> seriously, all they have to do is get their product(s) into clinical> trials (in the US or Canada).>
It says "may". It's an older,1995 Nov-Dec smaller trial. (of carefully selected patients). At least one of the investigators is an owner of the company. That's why it's best to have a clinical trial and a large cohort - reviewed and monitored by other cancer experts. As I said before, I searched clinical trials for Glutathione (closed and open trials) and there's nothing there, http://nccam.nih.gov/clinicaltrials/alltrials.htm#g no Glutathione, no hms90
That product's been out there, on newsgroups and in the real world (as you said "international") for years. Not one, not one patient (or loved one) has come here and told us of a cure. Not one. J
That product's been out there, on newsgroups and in the real world (as you said "international") for years.> Not one, not one patient (or loved one) has come here and told us of a cure. Not one.> J
I Never claimed it to CURE his cancer. I know it is what saved him from experiencing chemo side effects and allowed his hair to GROW back after Falling out.... since gemticabine has SEVERE side effects.....that is what I am stating. notihng else. If it is shrinking his tumor, BONUS......since we KNOW chemo isn't. Otherwise his doctors would have been excited for him to take chemo in the beginning.
The study shows that in the experimental system, the chemo killed MORE> cells, so by your reasoning, it makes the chemo worse...
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cells grown in baicalein + Immunocal showed a higher phosphatidylserine exposure, lower mitochondrial transmembrane potential, and nearly 13 times more cells undergoing apoptosis than cells grown in baicalein alone.
Hmmmmmm..... Baicalein is Chemo, so when Immunocal is included in the media 13x more cancer cells were killed. WHat part did you NOT understand????? Like I said YOU NEED to understand medical terminology.
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