Rosemary Hanger 11 March 2005 05:04:54 [ permanent link ]
Temprance wrote:
They told me that Cornflakes and Rice Krispies were gluten free and> nut free. The only 2 products to be nut free. I need to check that out> Temprance
If they are made the same way as they are here in Oz, then they definitely contain malt extract, just like Jack said. And malt extract is definitely not GF. All Kelloggs products are on the Aust. Coeliac Soc.'s list of no-nos.
"Rosemary Hanger" <rosemary@sillyYak.com.au> wrote in message news:4230ee8e$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...> Temprance wrote:>
They told me that Cornflakes and Rice Krispies were gluten free and>> nut free. The only 2 products to be nut free. I need to check that out>> Temprance>
If they are made the same way as they are here in Oz, then they definitely > contain malt extract, just like Jack said. And malt extract is definitely > not GF. All Kelloggs products are on the Aust. Coeliac Soc.'s list of > no-nos.>
R
Thanks for the replies people. You've confirmed what I've always thought, that they do contain gluten.
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:04:54 +1100, Rosemary Hanger <rosemary@sillyYak.com.au> wrote:
Temprance wrote:>
They told me that Cornflakes and Rice Krispies were gluten free and>> nut free. The only 2 products to be nut free. I need to check that out>> Temprance>
If they are made the same way as they are here in Oz, then they >definitely contain malt extract, just like Jack said. And malt extract >is definitely not GF. All Kelloggs products are on the Aust. Coeliac >Soc.'s list of no-nos.>
R
That's so annoying. It was the dietician in the hospital that told me I could eat the small boxes of Rice krispies and Cornflakes that they supplied. Granted I only have a wheat allergy so maybe that's why but I'm going to check it out. T
Rosemary Hanger 12 March 2005 00:24:39 [ permanent link ]
Temprance wrote:
If they are made the same way as they are here in Oz, then they >>definitely contain malt extract, just like Jack said. And malt extract >>is definitely not GF. All Kelloggs products are on the Aust. Coeliac >>Soc.'s list of no-nos.>>
That's so annoying. It was the dietician in the hospital that told me> I could eat the small boxes of Rice krispies and Cornflakes that they> supplied. Granted I only have a wheat allergy so maybe that's why but> I'm going to check it out.> T
If you are wheat allergic rather than coeliac, then maybe you can eat the Kelloggs products. So far as I know, the barley malt extract is the only unacceptable ingredient in them (sorry - but I never buy them so not 100% sure of the rest of the ingredients!!).
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 11:53:19 +0000 Temprance <spam.seula@spamdotselkie.org.ukspam> wrote:
I have been in touch with Kelloggs UK.> Hordein from the malt is present in a very very minute quantity. It's> so little that the Coeliac Society list Kelloggs Cornflakes and Rice> Krispies as being suitable for a Gluten free diet.
The recommendations of the British Coeliac Society are controversial. Among other things they allow de-glutin-ized wheat starch. Suppose the process is OK. No one should trust that it always works perfectly to remove 100% of the gluten, and that there never is any contamination with un-de-glutin-ized flour. My understanding is that the society derives income from the de-glutin-izing process.
You would have to> be very very allergic to react to them. > Temprance
Well, nut oil is a lot more expensive than "vegetable oil", and so there can't be much contamination. You would have to be very, very allergic to react to it.
Why are you here, Temperance? To arrogantly dismiss other's problems, or to provide support?
Robert Hinterding 19 March 2005 06:00:45 [ permanent link ]
The facts are: they are not gluten free, as malt is added.
The ELIZA test cannot realiably detect gluten in malt, it gives false negatives.
Hence how do they (Kelloggs) know the level, unless they are using the results fom the ELIZA test, which are no good anyway.
In Australia and some other countries, anything that contains malt cannot be labelled as gluten free, as the ELIZA test is unrealiable where malt is concerned. The benefit of doubt goes to the Coeliacs.
In the UK, the benefit of doubt goes to the manufacturers. The minority of Coeliacs (minority means any thing less than 50%) who will get sick eating it, GET SICK.
I have been in touch with Kelloggs UK.> Hordein from the malt is present in a very very minute quantity. It's> so little that the Coeliac Society list Kelloggs Cornflakes and Rice> Krispies as being suitable for a Gluten free diet. You would have to> be very very allergic to react to them. > Temprance>
I have been in touch with Kelloggs UK.> > Hordein from the malt is present in a very very minute quantity. It's> > so little that the Coeliac Society list Kelloggs Cornflakes and Rice> > Krispies as being suitable for a Gluten free diet.
My biggest concern with Kelloggs products isn't so much the main ingredients but the source of the 'added vitamins and minerals'.
When I lived in the US I was unwell for the first few months until I found out that the minerals in the milk I was drinking got there through the company adding fish oil without declaring it.
So far Kelloggs have ignored all my requests for confirmation on the source of their added vitamins and minerals.
The recommendations of the British Coeliac Society are controversial. > Among other things they allow de-glutin-ized wheat starch. Suppose > the process is OK. No one should trust that it> always works perfectly to remove 100% of the gluten, and that> there never is any contamination with un-de-glutin-ized flour.> My understanding is that the society derives income from the > de-glutin-izing process.>
You would have to> > be very very allergic to react to them. > > Temprance>
Well, nut oil is a lot more expensive than "vegetable oil", and so there> can't be much contamination. You would have to be very, very> allergic to react to it.>
Erm, that isn't always true. Hence the reason 'vegetable oil' is quite often nut oil. in lots of cases it is actually cheaper than pure varieties of sunflower oil, etc.
The only difference being that certain processing treatments can make some nut oils less likely to cause a reaction but not 100% guaranteed not to cause one.
I always choose the products that declare the type of oil they use over the ones that don't.
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:38:46 -0800 Hu-Mi Yu <mcbobREMOVE@attglobal.net> wrote:
By the time he arrived in Michigan, he was delirious. They put him in> the hospital, and he was soon dead. The doctors claimed he died of> whooping cough.
My comment here is not about the quality of care that my grandfather received. I assume it was excellent. Doctors need an accurate history to make a valid diagnosis, and this is what was missing here. My grandfather never admitted he had tuberculosis because he would have been under quarantine. Boarding a bus and leaving for Michigan was illegal for him under California law.
I do not know how much his brother knew about the allergies. It seemed as though the two of them had not spoken to each other for decades, so I expect he didn't know. My grandfather's diet was too difficult to explain in a few minutes. He needed kitchen privileges to survive. He made discrete inquiries at a sanitarium, and he was told it was imposible. Part of the treatment was the well balanced diet they provided.
My foster family kept me incommunicado; they were rabidly anti-Catholic. I was not allowed to receive letters or phone calls. The letters I wrote were probably never mailed. I didn't even know my grandfather had died until years later. Mentioning my mother was grounds for a beating. My new family insisted my mother was shot in Auschwitz. When I was fourteen they began drugging me to help me forget. Every time they drug me to make me forget, my lose track of my allergies for a few years. That is when the doctors come up with clever reasons for my perpetual cold. One doctor pulled out my tonsils, and another put an extra bend in my nose.
It is doctors in general that you have to be careful about. They go over things too fast, and they can do a lot of harm if you let them.
I response to the "mild celiac" - beware the thought that if you don't have a reaction, you can eat it. You can not have an obvious reaction and still be doing internal damage. Also, it's not a food allergy, but an intolerance.
I am not celiac but I am definitely gluten intolerant. The longer I eliminate gluten from my diet, the more sensitive I have become to any trace of gluten that sneaks into my diet. Well, I just had a bowl of Kellogg's cornflakes despite reading in their list of ingredients it contains "malt flavoring". Almost immediately I got a stomach ache. Then I had to use the bathroom and it was the typical diareah (sp) I get when I eat gluten. Pardon me for being so specific. Now I will probably have that dull stomachache for the rest of the day and into tomorrow. I won't eat Kellogg's cornflakes again.
Kellogs Corn flakes (No Name) said they may contain gluten. Now they say on label is does contain gluten. I am a very sensitive coeliac, and cannot tolerate any gluten,
There is no such thing as a mild coeliac or otherwise. You are either a coeliac or you are not. If you are a coeliac, you must not under any circumstances knowingly ingest gluten. It doesn't matter whether ingesting gluten makes you immediately sick or not, what matters is that ingesting it will damage your gut and can cause long term health effects. A wheat allergy is a very different thing and nowhere near as serious as coeliac disease.
this site http://www.kelloggs.co.uk/products/ tells you which one are vegan gluten free etc... just select the proper option. by the way none where gluten free
Kellogg's Corn Flakes do not contain malt, they contain malt flavoring. There is a difference because malt flavoring derived from rice or corn is gluten free, whereas malt flavoring derived from barley is not.
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