I am gluten sensitive (a mild coeliac) and I'd assumed that Kellogs> Cornflakes (and all other cornflakes too) contained gluten.>

But recently a coeliac friend of a friend of mine said that he can eat> them, so they must be gluten free.>

Can anyone confirm this, or is my friend's friend an even milder> coeliac that I am?

They contain malt, which contains gluten.>

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They told me that Cornflakes and Rice Krispies were gluten free and> nut free. The only 2 products to be nut free. I need to check that out> Temprance

If they are made the same way as they are here in Oz, then they definitely > contain malt extract, just like Jack said. And malt extract is definitely > not GF. All Kelloggs products are on the Aust. Coeliac Soc.'s list of > no-nos.>

R

Temprance wrote:>

If they are made the same way as they are here in Oz, then they >definitely contain malt extract, just like Jack said. And malt extract >is definitely not GF. All Kelloggs products are on the Aust. Coeliac >Soc.'s list of no-nos.>

R

That's so annoying. It was the dietician in the hospital that told me> I could eat the small boxes of Rice krispies and Cornflakes that they> supplied. Granted I only have a wheat allergy so maybe that's why but> I'm going to check it out.> T

Local health boards> here put pressure on doctors not to hospitalize, and they have no> economic incentive to.

One more thing. I have> nut and seed allergy as well. For breakfast one morning I got sent up> a box of rice krispies and a can of orange lucozade. Even the staff> were bemused at that. The very same hospital Bogus. Except I'm not> alllowed lucozade due to the nut thing.

Can you explain the issue with Lucozade please as I've never heard of, >or had, any problems with it?

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:00:41 +0000, Mike Edwards><mike.edwar­ds@rocksoft.demon.co­.uk> wrote:>

I have been in touch with Kelloggs UK.> Hordein from the malt is present in a very very minute quantity. It's> so little that the Coeliac Society list Kelloggs Cornflakes and Rice> Krispies as being suitable for a Gluten free diet.

You would have to> be very very allergic to react to them. > Temprance

I have been in touch with Kelloggs UK.> Hordein from the malt is present in a very very minute quantity. It's> so little that the Coeliac Society list Kelloggs Cornflakes and Rice> Krispies as being suitable for a Gluten free diet. You would have to> be very very allergic to react to them. > Temprance>

The ELIZA test cannot realiably detect gluten in malt, it gives> false negatives.

Hence how do they (Kelloggs) know the level, unless they are using> the results fom the ELIZA test, which are no good anyway.

Neither can a police radar detector. That's not what the ELISA> test (yes it's spelt that way) is for.>

If you're making the product you know the level because you know> how much barley you're using. No need for analysis.>

The question is whether a manufacturing process like Kellogg's> would ever result in a level low enough to be universally safe.> I'm with Bob on this one; I doubt it very much. If you can> taste the barley (which is the point of adding it) your immune> system can taste it too.>

The recommendations of the British Coeliac Society are controversial. > Among other things they allow de-glutin-ized wheat starch. Suppose > the process is OK. No one should trust that it> always works perfectly to remove 100% of the gluten, and that> there never is any contamination with un-de-glutin-ized flour.> My understanding is that the society derives income from the > de-glutin-izing process.>

Well, nut oil is a lot more expensive than "vegetable oil", and so there> can't be much contamination. You would have to be very, very> allergic to react to it.>

Erm, that isn't always true. Hence the reason 'vegetable oil' is quite > often nut oil. in lots of cases it is actually cheaper than pure > varieties of sunflower oil, etc.

The only difference being that certain processing treatments can make > some nut oils less likely to cause a reaction but not 100% guaranteed > not to cause one.

I always choose the products that declare the type of oil they use over > the ones that don't.

Read the whole thread again. I never said *always*. The context was> the machinery at the Lucozade factory being oiled with generic 'vegetable> oil' which might contain nut oil which might set off a nut allergy in> a particular poster if they were very very allergic.>

This was in response to her remark that implied it didn't matter if some> of us became ill from the barley malt in rice krispies because> we would have to be very very allergic to barley.

You mistook my remark for a straight line.

So do I. They are more expensive than the ones that say > 'vegetable oil'. The only 'nut' oil that comes close is peanut> oil, and peanuts aren't nuts but legumes.>

I challenge you to name a nut oil that can be found for the same price > as generic vegetable oil.

I was pointing out that for industrial purposes some times nut oil is > cheapest and some times it's not. Either way the statement that <nut oil > is a lot more expensive than "vegetable oil"> is not true!

That isn't the point.

By the time he arrived in Michigan, he was delirious. They put him in> the hospital, and he was soon dead. The doctors claimed he died of> whooping cough.