Not content to kill you with their fries or the buns they serve the burgers on, McDonalds adds hydrogenated fats to the meat itself, in the form of their "grill seasoning." The 1/4 pound patty on the Quarter Pounder and Big & Tasty contains A WHOLE GRAM of the killer Franklenstein fats. That's on top of 7 g of saturated fat. Is this premeditated murder, or a lesser crime, like negligent homicide? All those times I ordered their burgers "no bun." I had no idea. Bastards. Go check it out on their website, then tell the whole world. http://app.mcdonalds.com/bagamcmeal?process=item&itemID=6
<CLASSACT@BRICK.NET> wrote in message news:1135259401.820851.56870@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> Not content to kill you with their fries or the buns they serve the> burgers on, McDonalds adds hydrogenated fats to the meat itself, in the> form of their "grill seasoning."> The 1/4 pound patty on the Quarter Pounder and Big & Tasty contains A> WHOLE GRAM of the killer Franklenstein fats. That's on top of 7 g of> saturated fat.> Is this premeditated murder, or a lesser crime, like negligent> homicide?> All those times I ordered their burgers "no bun." I had no idea.> Bastards. Go check it out on their website, then tell the whole world.> http://app.mcdonalds.com/bagamcmeal?process=item&itemID=6>
You're quite welcome. Let's everyone consider calling them toll free to ask why they are so intent upon killing their customers.
1-877-MCD-FOOD>
<CLASSACT@BRICK.NET> wrote in message> news:1135259401.820851.56870@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> > Not content to kill you with their fries or the buns they serve the> > burgers on, McDonalds adds hydrogenated fats to the meat itself, in the> > form of their "grill seasoning."> > The 1/4 pound patty on the Quarter Pounder and Big & Tasty contains A> > WHOLE GRAM of the killer Franklenstein fats. That's on top of 7 g of> > saturated fat.> > Is this premeditated murder, or a lesser crime, like negligent> > homicide?> > All those times I ordered their burgers "no bun." I had no idea.> > Bastards. Go check it out on their website, then tell the whole world.> > http://app.mcdonalds.com/bagamcmeal?process=item&itemID=6> >
Trader4@Optonline.Net 23 December 2005 21:57:46 [ permanent link ]
"You can thank the Republicans in Congress and the White House for that. The fast food industry gives huge amounts of money, almost exclusively
to the GOP. "
Well, at least now we know where you;re coming from. Even if your assertion that the fast food industry contributes almost exclusively to the GOP is true, which I doubt, so what? Answer this simple question. Does typical fast food have more transfat, less transfat, or about the same than it did when Democrats controlled the White House and/or Congress? The fact is there is an active campaign to reduce transfat that has been going on quite well under a Republican president and Congress. Most fast food companies have reduced or eliminated transfat. And have you ever heard of the new labeling requirements for transfat to help consumers avoid it? See all the pretty packages that say ZERO transfat? How stupid can you be?
Ernst Primer 23 December 2005 22:45:37 [ permanent link ]
trader4@optonline.net wrote:> "You can thank the Republicans in Congress and the White House for> that.> The fast food industry gives huge amounts of money, almost exclusively>
to the GOP. ">
Well, at least now we know where you;re coming from. Even if your> assertion that the fast food industry contributes almost exclusively to> the GOP is true, which I doubt, so what? Answer this simple question.> Does typical fast food have more transfat, less transfat, or about the> same than it did when Democrats controlled the White House and/or> Congress? The fact is there is an active campaign to reduce transfat> that has been going on quite well under a Republican president and> Congress. Most fast food companies have reduced or eliminated> transfat. And have you ever heard of the new labeling requirements for> transfat to help consumers avoid it? See all the pretty packages that> say ZERO transfat? How stupid can you be?
I say all of this is just silly to even bother debating about on this particular NG. I haven't set foot in a McDonald's for literally months now, and frankly, now that I'm heading towards a year of low-carbing, I'm starting to really like not being a slave to the fast food industry anymore.
But I'm all for the industry's right to exist and people's corresponding right to stuff themselves silly with prepackaged precooked carby crap.
Trader4@Optonline.Net 23 December 2005 23:09:22 [ permanent link ]
"I say all of this is just silly to even bother debating about on this particular NG. I haven't set foot in a McDonald's for literally months now, and frankly, now that I'm heading towards a year of low-carbing, I'm starting to really like not being a slave to the fast food industry
anymore.
But I'm all for the industry's right to exist and people's corresponding right to stuff themselves silly with prepackaged precooked carby crap.
Anyways... "
Yes, very good point! I rarely visit a fast food business too. If I'm traveling, and need to stop somewhere that only has fast food, I usually look for fried chicken. Of course I eat that without the carb coating.
<CLASSACT@BRICK.NET> wrote in message news:1135259401.820851.56870@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...> Not content to kill you with their fries or the buns they serve the> burgers on, McDonalds adds hydrogenated fats to the meat itself, in the> form of their "grill seasoning."> The 1/4 pound patty on the Quarter Pounder and Big & Tasty contains A> WHOLE GRAM of the killer Franklenstein fats. That's on top of 7 g of> saturated fat.> Is this premeditated murder, or a lesser crime, like negligent> homicide?> All those times I ordered their burgers "no bun." I had no idea.> Bastards. Go check it out on their website, then tell the whole world.> http://app.mcdonalds.com/bagamcmeal?process=item&itemID=6>
--Bryan>
Wow! I don't even like McDonald's burgers, but I had been ordering some burgers without the bun when I travel because that is something I could always locate easily. I was actually feeling somewhat "virtuous" about it. I certainly knew that the burgers were not low-fat, but I had no idea that transfats were added!
Ernst Primer <dr_ernie_primeau@yahoo.ca> wrote: :> trader4@optonline.net wrote: :>> "You can thank the Republicans in Congress and the White House for :>> that. :>> The fast food industry gives huge amounts of money, almost :>> exclusively :>> :>> to the GOP. " :>> :>> Well, at least now we know where you;re coming from. Even if your :>> assertion that the fast food industry contributes almost :>> exclusively to the GOP is true, which I doubt, so what? Answer :>> this simple question. Does typical fast food have more transfat, :>> less transfat, or about the same than it did when Democrats :>> controlled the White House and/or Congress? The fact is there is :>> an active campaign to reduce transfat that has been going on quite :>> well under a Republican president and Congress. Most fast food :>> companies have reduced or eliminated transfat. And have you ever :>> heard of the new labeling requirements for transfat to help :>> consumers avoid it? See all the pretty packages that say ZERO :>> transfat? How stupid can you be? :> :> I say all of this is just silly to even bother debating about on :> this particular NG. I haven't set foot in a McDonald's for literally :> months now, and frankly, now that I'm heading towards a year of :> low-carbing, I'm starting to really like not being a slave to the :> fast food industry anymore.
Well, that's your choice, but it's not as if one can't make good choices from selections on a fast food menu.
:> :> But I'm all for the industry's right to exist and people's :> corresponding right to stuff themselves silly with prepackaged :> precooked carby crap.
See...this is dogma....one can definitely eat in a fast food place without doing this.
CLASSACT@BRICK.NET wrote: :> Not content to kill you with their fries or the buns they serve the :> burgers on, McDonalds adds hydrogenated fats to the meat itself, in :> the form of their "grill seasoning."
Yeah, that's a problem. Note that the rounding down hides the amount of transfat in the seasoning - bad idea, IMO.
:> The 1/4 pound patty on the Quarter Pounder and Big & Tasty contains A :> WHOLE GRAM of the killer Franklenstein fats. That's on top of 7 g of :> saturated fat.
The 1 g from the meat is not a problem. Those trans fats are helpful, as it the sat fats in the absense of excess carbs.
:> Is this premeditated murder, or a lesser crime, like negligent :> homicide?
Well, grilling the meat would be better than frying in partially hydrogenated oils. But they can switch to a fully hydrogenated oil to solve that problem, methinks.
Joe the Aroma 29 December 2005 01:19:24 [ permanent link ]
"Curt" <myemail@nowehere.com> wrote in message news:MPG.1e1cd2fc3538004498969c@news-server.tampabay.rr.com...> You know, Some people would blame President Bush for a rainy day.
Right. The day Bush came into office, Karl Rove ordered all fast-food chains to start buying trans fats from Halliburton and use them in all fast foods. When Clinton was wolfing down BKs and Big Macs, they were heart-healthy. Only side effect was that it made you want to have your interns switch to tube steak.
You're a freaking moron.
You can thank the Republicans in Congress and the White House for that.> The fast food industry gives huge amounts of money, almost exclusively> to the GOP.
Right. The day Bush came into office, Karl Rove ordered all fast-food chains to start buying trans fats from Halliburton and use them in all fast foods. When Clinton was wolfing down BKs and Big Macs, they were heart-healthy. Only side effect was that it made you want to have your interns switch to tube steak.
You're a freaking moron.
You can thank the Republicans in Congress and the White House for that.> The fast food industry gives huge amounts of money, almost exclusively> to the GOP.
Ernst Primer 29 December 2005 18:58:19 [ permanent link ]
Roger Zoul wrote:> Ernst Primer <dr_ernie_primeau@yahoo.ca> wrote:> :> trader4@optonline.net wrote:> :>> "You can thank the Republicans in Congress and the White House for> :>> that.> :>> The fast food industry gives huge amounts of money, almost> :>> exclusively> :>>> :>> to the GOP. "> :>>> :>> Well, at least now we know where you;re coming from. Even if your> :>> assertion that the fast food industry contributes almost> :>> exclusively to the GOP is true, which I doubt, so what? Answer> :>> this simple question. Does typical fast food have more transfat,> :>> less transfat, or about the same than it did when Democrats> :>> controlled the White House and/or Congress? The fact is there is> :>> an active campaign to reduce transfat that has been going on quite> :>> well under a Republican president and Congress. Most fast food> :>> companies have reduced or eliminated transfat. And have you ever> :>> heard of the new labeling requirements for transfat to help> :>> consumers avoid it? See all the pretty packages that say ZERO> :>> transfat? How stupid can you be?> :>> :> I say all of this is just silly to even bother debating about on> :> this particular NG. I haven't set foot in a McDonald's for literally> :> months now, and frankly, now that I'm heading towards a year of> :> low-carbing, I'm starting to really like not being a slave to the> :> fast food industry anymore.>
Well, that's your choice, but it's not as if one can't make good choices> from selections on a fast food menu.
You're correct. I confess, I did eat at McDonalds and Burger King a few months ago when I was working more... however, the only things I could order there, aside from the obvious sugar-free drink selections, were the garden salads. That's it.
:>> :> But I'm all for the industry's right to exist and people's> :> corresponding right to stuff themselves silly with prepackaged> :> precooked carby crap.>
See...this is dogma....one can definitely eat in a fast food place without> doing this.
You call it dogma, I call it a rule of thumb. Sure, you can eat in a fast food place, but what does one get out of it? Fast food for me has become handfuls of almonds, chunks of cheese, berries, a nibble of bacon, whatnot. If I'm totally short of time and away from my kitchen stash, I'll do an Atkins bar. That's decent fast food.
Ernst Primer <dr_ernie_primeau@yahoo.ca> wrote: :> Roger Zoul wrote: :>> Ernst Primer <dr_ernie_primeau@yahoo.ca> wrote: :>> :> trader4@optonline.net wrote: :>> :>> "You can thank the Republicans in Congress and the White House :>> :>> for that. :>> :>> The fast food industry gives huge amounts of money, almost :>> :>> exclusively :>> :>> :>> :>> to the GOP. " :>> :>> :>> :>> Well, at least now we know where you;re coming from. Even if :>> :>> your assertion that the fast food industry contributes almost :>> :>> exclusively to the GOP is true, which I doubt, so what? Answer :>> :>> this simple question. Does typical fast food have more transfat, :>> :>> less transfat, or about the same than it did when Democrats :>> :>> controlled the White House and/or Congress? The fact is there :>> :>> is :>> :>> an active campaign to reduce transfat that has been going on :>> :>> quite well under a Republican president and Congress. Most :>> :>> fast food companies have reduced or eliminated transfat. And :>> :>> have you ever heard of the new labeling requirements for :>> :>> transfat to help :>> :>> consumers avoid it? See all the pretty packages that say ZERO :>> :>> transfat? How stupid can you be? :>> :> :>> :> I say all of this is just silly to even bother debating about on :>> :> this particular NG. I haven't set foot in a McDonald's for :>> :> literally months now, and frankly, now that I'm heading towards :>> :> a year of low-carbing, I'm starting to really like not being a :>> :> slave to the :>> :> fast food industry anymore. :>> :>> Well, that's your choice, but it's not as if one can't make good :>> choices from selections on a fast food menu. :> :> You're correct. I confess, I did eat at McDonalds and Burger King a :> few months ago when I was working more... however, the only things I :> could order there, aside from the obvious sugar-free drink :> selections, were the garden salads. That's it. :> :>> :>> :> :>> :> But I'm all for the industry's right to exist and people's :>> :> corresponding right to stuff themselves silly with prepackaged :>> :> precooked carby crap. :>> :>> See...this is dogma....one can definitely eat in a fast food place :>> without doing this. :> :> You call it dogma, I call it a rule of thumb. Sure, you can :> eat :> in a fast food place, but what does one get out of it? Fast food for :> me has become handfuls of almonds, chunks of cheese, berries, a :> nibble of bacon, whatnot. If I'm totally short of time and away from :> my kitchen stash, I'll do an Atkins bar. That's decent fast food.
I'm not convinced that an Atkins bar is any better than a grill chicken salad had from one of the fast food places. Are you? Consider that they longer you are LCing, the more like it is to find yourself in a situation where you can't do what you normally would do. Keep at it, you'll see.
JC Der Koenig 30 December 2005 02:54:41 [ permanent link ]
"Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:11r8rp1nsj2us41@news.supernews.com...>
Fine. I'm not suggesting that YOU eat in a fast food restaurant. The > point here is that you can make reasonable choices there if you wish. > Saying you're not going to praise fast food while being willing to chuck > down an Atkins bar makes you seem rather...
Ernst Primer 30 December 2005 04:04:18 [ permanent link ]
Roger Zoul wrote:
<snip>
Saying> you're not going to praise fast food while being willing to chuck down an> Atkins bar makes you seem rather...well, I'll leave that for you to come up> with.
Makes me seem.... thinner? Not coming up with anything else, Rog.
To restate, I see no percentage in my choosing to set foot in a fast food restaurant over grabbing my own brand of 'fast food' from an Atkins bar, or other LC snacks available at most convenience stores.
If I truly crave real food I can always wait for it - I sincerely doubt your implication that people are somehow forced by circumstances to visit a McDonalds or Burger King.
How about this - fast food restaurants are generally what made me fat in the first place. Therefore, I choose to resist temptation by avoiding it.
BTW, I'm glad they have a spinach salad - I didn't notice that when I first looked over the list (honestly). I doubt that will motivate me to hit the Golden Arches in the forseeable future, but correction noted anyways.
Moo <teats@comcast.net> wrote: || Right. The day Bush came into office, Karl Rove ordered all || fast-food chains to start buying trans fats from Halliburton || and use them in all fast foods. When Clinton was wolfing down || BKs and Big Macs, they were heart-healthy. Only side effect || was that it made you want to have your interns switch to tube || steak. || || You're a freaking moron. || || || You can thank the Republicans in Congress and the White House || for that. ||| The fast food industry gives huge amounts of money, almost ||| exclusively ||| to the GOP.
A well known group moron.
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