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Cigarettes for UCD??

PipeDown 3 January 2006 02:30:15
 Anyone watch "House" on FOX TV last night. In one scene he perscribed 2
cigarettes a day to an IBD patient (man in santa suit) who got no relief
from 5ASA or 6MP drugs (exactly what I take). Naturally he was criticized
on the show but I was wondering how much truth to this there is.

I have no plans to take up smoking but this scene just hit my radar. He
said the effect was well known to relieve symptoms but I have never heard of
it. Is it specific to chron's IBD or is it a general effect on the bowel
for anyone?

Would balancing the risk of lung and heart desease be worth any relief one
might get from cramps and D? (I think that was the moral of the scene)


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KathyZ 22 December 2005 01:33:19 permanent link ]
 Thanks Susan,

I appreciate the advice. Surgery just makes things worse in the long
run. it causes the disease to re appear in different parts along your
entire GI tract. I phone my doctor but like I said he never rings back
with any words of wisdom and I'm not sure if he just doesn't care or if
he is a substandard gastro doc here in austin texas.

But thanks for the words of wisdom Susan and may your body heal and you
gain weight to start the new years off right.

*peace profound to you and yours*
KathyZ SRC aka hermes705

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Sdores 22 December 2005 01:47:00 permanent link ]
 I had no choice in having my surgery. My resection part was dead and the dr
I saw couldn't diagnose me. I have a new doc now. The other surgeries I
had was one to clean up the scar tissue and adhesions and the other a hernia
repair. My crohn's hasn't moved to other locations. My problem now is a
stricture at the resection site which is causing me partial blockages that
are fortunately passing but cause inflammation that my meds seem to help
clear up pretty quickly. UM MOM Susan
"KathyZ" <HERMES705@YAHOO.CO­M> wrote in message
news:1135204399.386­905.157330@f14g2000c­wb.googlegroups.com.­..> Thanks Susan,>
I appreciate the advice. Surgery just makes things worse in the long> run. it causes the disease to re appear in different parts along your> entire GI tract. I phone my doctor but like I said he never rings back> with any words of wisdom and I'm not sure if he just doesn't care or if> he is a substandard gastro doc here in austin texas.>
But thanks for the words of wisdom Susan and may your body heal and you> gain weight to start the new years off right.>
*peace profound to you and yours*> KathyZ SRC aka hermes705>


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Wayne Marsh 22 December 2005 02:03:21 permanent link ]
 PipeDown wrote on 12/21/05 3:09 PM:
He > said the effect was well known to relieve symptoms but I have never heard of> it. Is it specific to Crohn's IBD or is it a general effect on the bowel> for anyone [with IBD]?

The party line is that smoking may be good for UC but is bad for Crohn's.
It's my layman's opinion, and Dr. House seems to agree with me(!), that
smoking or other nicotine dosing might be useful for any IBD patient with
inflammation in the colon, but not for those whose inflammation is confined
to the ilium.
Would balancing the risk of lung and heart disease be worth any relief one> might get from cramps and D? (I think that was the moral of the scene).

Each of us has to make that decision for himself. Bear in mind that smoking,
particularly at two cigarettes a day, is not inevitably deadly. You balance
the future *possibility* of heart and lung disease versus the present
*certainty* of unrelieved cramps and diarrhea.

Are you intrigued? Try it for yourself: go to the drug store and buy some of
the lowest-dosage nicotine gum. Chew a piece and see if it does you any
good, symptom-wise. Be ready for some side effects, since nicotine is a
stimulant. If it helps, chew some more gum, or experiment with nicotine
patches. If it doesn't help, or if you can't stand the side-effects, throw
away the gum and no harm done -- nicotine is a pretty benign drug.

Wayne Marsh Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
waynegmarsh@mac.com­

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PipeDown 22 December 2005 02:39:40 permanent link ]
 
"Wayne Marsh" <waynegmarsh@mac.co­m> wrote in message
news:BFCF3B59.3D204­%waynegmarsh@mac.com­...> PipeDown wrote on 12/21/05 3:09 PM:>
said the effect was well known to relieve symptoms but I have never heard >> of>> it. Is it specific to Crohn's IBD or is it a general effect on the bowel>> for anyone [with IBD]?>
The party line is that smoking may be good for UC but is bad for Crohn's.> It's my layman's opinion, and Dr. House seems to agree with me(!), that> smoking or other nicotine dosing might be useful for any IBD patient with> inflammation in the colon, but not for those whose inflammation is > confined> to the ilium.>
Would balancing the risk of lung and heart disease be worth any relief >> one>> might get from cramps and D? (I think that was the moral of the scene).>
Each of us has to make that decision for himself. Bear in mind that > smoking,> particularly at two cigarettes a day, is not inevitably deadly. You > balance> the future *possibility* of heart and lung disease versus the present> *certainty* of unrelieved cramps and diarrhea.>
Are you intrigued? Try it for yourself: go to the drug store and buy some > of> the lowest-dosage nicotine gum. Chew a piece and see if it does you any> good, symptom-wise. Be ready for some side effects, since nicotine is a> stimulant. If it helps, chew some more gum, or experiment with nicotine> patches. If it doesn't help, or if you can't stand the side-effects, throw> away the gum and no harm done -- nicotine is a pretty benign drug.>
Wayne Marsh Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA> waynegmarsh@mac.com­>

That's helpful. My diagnosis is plain Chron's in the illium but based on
where I feel pain now, I bet they missed an inactive spot in the colon when
they did the last colonoscopy. Its hard to say and after the painful last
exam, I am not in a rush for another.


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M 22 December 2005 20:52:22 permanent link ]
 Smoking can relieve symptoms of UC, but will make CD worse. Rather than
taking up smoking, you can get prescribed nicotine patches, most docs will
do this, as it is a recognised treatment.

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"PipeDown" <nowhere@earthlink.­net> wrote in message
news:jwjqf.4741$mj1­.2551@newsread3.news­.pas.earthlink.net..­.> Anyone watch "House" on FOX TV last night. In one scene he perscribed 2 > cigarettes a day to an IBD patient (man in santa suit) who got no relief > from 5ASA or 6MP drugs (exactly what I take). Naturally he was > criticized on the show but I was wondering how much truth to this there > is.>
I have no plans to take up smoking but this scene just hit my radar. He > said the effect was well known to relieve symptoms but I have never heard > of it. Is it specific to chron's IBD or is it a general effect on the > bowel for anyone?>
Would balancing the risk of lung and heart desease be worth any relief one > might get from cramps and D? (I think that was the moral of the scene)>


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Guest 23 December 2005 05:27:43 permanent link ]
 
A quick search on Google Scholar (http://scholar.goo­gle.com/) found
1100 articles. Below link is to one from the New England Journal of
Medicine.


See:
http://content.nejm­.org/cgi/content/abs­tract/330/12/811

PipeDown wrote:> Anyone watch "House" on FOX TV last night. In one scene he perscribed 2> cigarettes a day to an IBD patient (man in santa suit) who got no relief> from 5ASA or 6MP drugs (exactly what I take). Naturally he was criticized> on the show but I was wondering how much truth to this there is.>
I have no plans to take up smoking but this scene just hit my radar. He> said the effect was well known to relieve symptoms but I have never heard of> it. Is it specific to chron's IBD or is it a general effect on the bowel> for anyone?>
Would balancing the risk of lung and heart desease be worth any relief one> might get from cramps and D? (I think that was the moral of the scene)

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NinaW 23 December 2005 09:35:14 permanent link ]
 Hi,
The reference had less to do with smoking and more to do with nicotine.
Nicotine is medically recognized to help SOME people with UC. It does
not help with Crohn's.

I am on 12 mg of nicotine gum a day and have found it to be helping me
a great deal. I am not an ex-smoker but was exposed to a lot of second
hand smoke earlier in my life.

HTH

Nina

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Ironjustice@Aol.Com 25 December 2005 04:02:04 permanent link ]
 There was just a write-up about the effects of smoking .. and it is the
carbon monoxide ..

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Kam 27 December 2005 12:48:50 permanent link ]
 
Being a former smoker with UC, I thought I'd share my history a bit. I
always had diahorrea every now and again for a few weeks and then I was
healed with no UC symptoms for months (I mean remission). At the time I
had no clue I had UC or anything but thinking back everytime I quit, I
bled and my symptoms became severe. I finally quit smoking for good
last November, got extremely sick and bled so much that I was put into
emergency and had a colonoscopy the following working day only to be
diagnosed with UC. I have never smoked since but I know for a fact that
smoking "hid" my UC, I can't say it controlled or helped it as I always
got worse with each flare but it certainly hid it and prevented it from
having severe flares.

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Doc 2 January 2006 09:43:02 permanent link ]
 "NinaW" <radiography@canada­.com> wrote in news:1135319714.690­494.319580
@z14g2000cwz.google­groups.com:
Hi,> The reference had less to do with smoking and more to do with nicotine.> Nicotine is medically recognized to help SOME people with UC. It does> not help with Crohn's.>
I am on 12 mg of nicotine gum a day and have found it to be helping me> a great deal. I am not an ex-smoker but was exposed to a lot of second> hand smoke earlier in my life.>
Nina

I noticed an article in the paper a few days ago, there was mention that
the carbon monoxide in cigarettes seems to be what helps patients, more
than the nicotine. Apparently this is something which will be studied
further.
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Sdores 2 January 2006 15:21:42 permanent link ]
 I saw that too Doc! UM MOM Susan
"Doc" <doc@oeltd.spam.yec­hh.net> wrote in message
news:Xns973EE717B26­97Doc530@216.168.3.4­4...> "NinaW" <radiography@canada­.com> wrote in news:1135319714.690­494.319580> @z14g2000cwz.google­groups.com:>
Hi,>> The reference had less to do with smoking and more to do with nicotine.>> Nicotine is medically recognized to help SOME people with UC. It does>> not help with Crohn's.>>
I am on 12 mg of nicotine gum a day and have found it to be helping me>> a great deal. I am not an ex-smoker but was exposed to a lot of second>> hand smoke earlier in my life.>>
Nina>
I noticed an article in the paper a few days ago, there was mention that> the carbon monoxide in cigarettes seems to be what helps patients, more> than the nicotine. Apparently this is something which will be studied> further.


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NinaW 3 January 2006 00:27:34 permanent link ]
 Well, I don't know about that one. I do know that CO is not in my gum
and that the nicotine has been helping me a great deal. It will be
interesting to see what the studies say. I hope there will be more than
one study and that they are not funded by tobacco companies. ;-)­

Nina

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Don Johnston 3 January 2006 02:30:15 permanent link ]
 One potential hazard of using gum or patches containing nicotine is the
potential to form an addiction. Of course one has to weigh the pros and
cons in terms of risk. Gum and patches don't have all the toxic compounds
found in tobacco. Carbon Monoxide is something everyone should avoid.

"NinaW" <radiography@canada­.com> wrote in message
news:1136237254.207­051.315070@g14g2000c­wa.googlegroups.com.­..> Well, I don't know about that one. I do know that CO is not in my gum> and that the nicotine has been helping me a great deal. It will be> interesting to see what the studies say. I hope there will be more than> one study and that they are not funded by tobacco companies. ;-)­>
Nina>


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