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GYXE > Chronic colitis > what is the difference between all the aminosalicylates?? 24 October 2007 07:57:51

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what is the difference between all the aminosalicylates??

David 24 October 2007 07:57:51
 Anyone know the difference between osalazine, mesalamine, asacol, and
colazal?? How does one know which is the best one to take??
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Howard Jarrett 2 March 2005 23:33:16 permanent link ]
 I don't recognize the first one,'osalazine.'
But I might could shed some light on the others.
'mesalamine' is the actual antiinflamatory that is delivered to the
intestines.

'Sulfasalazine' was the first developed. It combined sulfa with mesalazine.
This allowed the combined chemical to survive the trip through the acids of
the stomach. After the stomach it would break down into the two parts.

Because of the number of patients who were alergic to sulfa several other
drugs were developed which delivered pretty much the same mesalazine, but
without the sulfa.

Asacol, Pentasa & Colazal

I just looked it up on the CCFA site, and it described it a little different
than I had understood. Check there.
http://www.ccfa.org­/research/info/medic­ations

They list three 5-ASA drugs: olsalazine, mesalamine & balsalazide.

Dipentum delivers the 5-ASA drug olsalazine.
Asacol & Pentasa deliver the 5-ASA drug mesalamine.
Colazal delivers the 5-ASA drug balsalazide.

I have been on sulfazalazine (could not tolerate it), Pentasa, and am now on
Colazal.

In addition to delivering pretty much the same 5-ASA anti-inflammatory drug
there are the following differences.

Pentasa begins to deliver mesalamine just after passing through the stomach,
and continues to deliver more as it travels through the small intestine and
colon.

Asacol begins to deliver mesalamine at the beginning of the colon.

Colazal begins to deliver balsalazide about half way through the colon.

Rowasa enemas deliver mesalazine from the other end and it reaches only the
lower part of the colon.

I hope I got this right - corrections are welcome.
Hopefully your dr will beable to fine the right drug for you - one that you
will tolerate & one that will be effective for reducing your inflammation.
Howard
UC since 1995


"David" <David@asdf.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c8fccd719­7e58c6989682@news.ea­st.earthlink.net...>­ Anyone know the difference between osalazine, mesalamine, asacol, and> colazal?? How does one know which is the best one to take??


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Mike 3 March 2005 03:36:05 permanent link ]
 Don't forget Dipentum!!! This is the forgotten drug. It releases like
sulfasalazine (2 molecules bound together and broken apart by the same
intestinal bacteria), but no sulfa. It's 30 years old, and still not
available in generic and almost never prescribed. Apparently, it has a
tendency to cause diarrhea. It did not do that for me.

Thanks,

Mike

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Annie 3 March 2005 06:44:39 permanent link ]
 hi
i was on dipentum years ago and it was not great for me...asacol has
been much better...
we tried both colazal and pentasa and neither did much...my doctor said
that a lot of it is trial and error with these...what works for one
doesnt work for the next...
dipentum did NOT cause diarrhea for me..it just didnt stop the problems
at all..and i was always on prednisone...
now i am on asacol, cipro and 6mp...no pred for a couple of years
now...hopefully never again...
take care..annie

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Karen 3 March 2005 07:12:06 permanent link ]
 Annie, why Cipro? Is there a bacterial agent that needs to be
addressed, too? I'm glad for you that you are off pred. I was in a
panic the other day thinking that was the next step for me, but I've
learned so much here in the past two days that I hope I can avoid it
for now and forever.

Karen

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Carole Allen 3 March 2005 07:37:12 permanent link ]
 Howard, this is very informative..thx for posting it...

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 12:33:16 -0700, "Howard Jarrett"
<hjarrett1@cox.net>­ wrote:
I don't recognize the first one,'osalazine.'>Bu­t I might could shed some light on the others.>'mesalamine­' is the actual antiinflamatory that is delivered to the >intestines.>
'Sulfasalazine' was the first developed. It combined sulfa with mesalazine. >This allowed the combined chemical to survive the trip through the acids of >the stomach. After the stomach it would break down into the two parts.>
Because of the number of patients who were alergic to sulfa several other >drugs were developed which delivered pretty much the same mesalazine, but >without the sulfa.>
Asacol, Pentasa & Colazal>
I just looked it up on the CCFA site, and it described it a little different >than I had understood. Check there.>http://www.c­cfa.org/research/inf­o/medications>
They list three 5-ASA drugs: olsalazine, mesalamine & balsalazide.>
Dipentum delivers the 5-ASA drug olsalazine.>Asacol & Pentasa deliver the 5-ASA drug mesalamine.>Colazal­ delivers the 5-ASA drug balsalazide.>
I have been on sulfazalazine (could not tolerate it), Pentasa, and am now on >Colazal.>
In addition to delivering pretty much the same 5-ASA anti-inflammatory drug >there are the following differences.>
Pentasa begins to deliver mesalamine just after passing through the stomach, >and continues to deliver more as it travels through the small intestine and >colon.>
Asacol begins to deliver mesalamine at the beginning of the colon.>
Colazal begins to deliver balsalazide about half way through the colon.>
Rowasa enemas deliver mesalazine from the other end and it reaches only the >lower part of the colon.>
I hope I got this right - corrections are welcome.>Hopefully your dr will beable to fine the right drug for you - one that you >will tolerate & one that will be effective for reducing your inflammation.>Howar­d>UC since 1995>
"David" <David@asdf.com> wrote in message >news:MPG.1c8fccd71­97e58c6989682@news.e­ast.earthlink.net...­>> Anyone know the difference between osalazine, mesalamine, asacol, and>> colazal?? How does one know which is the best one to take?? >

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Mgbio 3 March 2005 08:40:08 permanent link ]
 They release in different parts of the intestinal tract. Since the 5ASA drugs work on contact, the location of the disease often determines which is best to use for a given patient. You should ask your GI why he/she chose the specific 5ASA you are taking.

:)­ mgbio

David wrote:> Anyone know the difference between osalazine, mesalamine, asacol, and > colazal?? How does one know which is the best one to take??

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Mgbio 3 March 2005 08:47:05 permanent link ]
 Karen,

I don't know why Annie suggested Cipro to you (since you didn't quote her post), however, specific antibiotics such as Cipro, Flagyl, Rifamab and Biaxen have been shown to help control IBD and have their place in its treatment.

:)­ mgbio

Karen wrote:
Annie, why Cipro? Is there a bacterial agent that needs to be> addressed, too? I'm glad for you that you are off pred. I was in a> panic the other day thinking that was the next step for me, but I've> learned so much here in the past two days that I hope I can avoid it> for now and forever.>
Karen>

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Bruce 3 March 2005 09:08:56 permanent link ]
 Karen wrote:> Annie, why Cipro? Is there a bacterial agent that needs to be> addressed, too?

Certain antibiotics have been proven to be useful for treating Crohn's
disease, particularly CD involving fistulas and abscesses. With the
possible exception of a bacterium called MAP(Mycobacterium avium
subspecies paratuberculosis) however there is currently not one
particular bacterium known or believed to be involved in the
pathogenesis of Crohn's.

Keep in mind that at the same time antibiotics have not been shown to be
effective in ulcerative colitis.


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Howard Jarrett 3 March 2005 09:14:58 permanent link ]
 Thanks.


"Carole Allen" <carolea7@comcast.n­et> wrote in message
news:42268653.99631­2@news.individual.ne­t...> Howard, this is very informative..thx for posting it...>
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 12:33:16 -0700, "Howard Jarrett"> <hjarrett1@cox.net>­ wrote:>
I don't recognize the first one,'osalazine.'>>B­ut I might could shed some light on the others.>>'mesalamin­e' is the actual antiinflamatory that is delivered to the>>intestines.>>
'Sulfasalazine' was the first developed. It combined sulfa with >>mesalazine.>>This­ allowed the combined chemical to survive the trip through the acids >>of>>the stomach. After the stomach it would break down into the two parts.>>
Because of the number of patients who were alergic to sulfa several other>>drugs were developed which delivered pretty much the same mesalazine, but>>without the sulfa.>>
Asacol, Pentasa & Colazal>>
I just looked it up on the CCFA site, and it described it a little >>different>>than I had understood. Check there.>>http://www.­ccfa.org/research/in­fo/medications>>
They list three 5-ASA drugs: olsalazine, mesalamine & balsalazide.>>
Dipentum delivers the 5-ASA drug olsalazine.>>Asacol­ & Pentasa deliver the 5-ASA drug mesalamine.>>Colaza­l delivers the 5-ASA drug balsalazide.>>
I have been on sulfazalazine (could not tolerate it), Pentasa, and am now >>on>>Colazal.>>
In addition to delivering pretty much the same 5-ASA anti-inflammatory >>drug>>there are the following differences.>>
Pentasa begins to deliver mesalamine just after passing through the >>stomach,>>and continues to deliver more as it travels through the small intestine >>and>>colon.>>
Asacol begins to deliver mesalamine at the beginning of the colon.>>
Colazal begins to deliver balsalazide about half way through the colon.>>
Rowasa enemas deliver mesalazine from the other end and it reaches only >>the>>lower part of the colon.>>
I hope I got this right - corrections are welcome.>>Hopefully­ your dr will beable to fine the right drug for you - one that >>you>>will tolerate & one that will be effective for reducing your inflammation.>>Howa­rd>>UC since 1995>>
"David" <David@asdf.com> wrote in message>>news:MPG.1­c8fccd7197e58c698968­2@news.east.earthlin­k.net...>>> Anyone know the difference between osalazine, mesalamine, asacol, and>>> colazal?? How does one know which is the best one to take??>>


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Howard Jarrett 3 March 2005 09:20:40 permanent link ]
 Dipentum did get a brief mention in the middle of my post, but I have not
heard much about it, and it doesn't get talked about much on this newsgroup.
Don't know why.
Howard



"Mike" <hopital_mike@yahoo­.com> wrote in message
news:1109806565.498­363.109330@z14g2000c­wz.googlegroups.com.­..> Don't forget Dipentum!!! This is the forgotten drug. It releases like> sulfasalazine (2 molecules bound together and broken apart by the same> intestinal bacteria), but no sulfa. It's 30 years old, and still not> available in generic and almost never prescribed. Apparently, it has a> tendency to cause diarrhea. It did not do that for me.>
Thanks,>
Mike>


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Virginia 4 March 2005 20:35:48 permanent link ]
 
David wrote:> Anyone know the difference between osalazine, mesalamine, asacol, and
colazal?? How does one know which is the best one to take??

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Virginia 4 March 2005 20:38:15 permanent link ]
 I took dipentum for years and it never did anything (although i
experienced no side effects). I recently switched to Asacol &
Methotrexate injections and the side effects between the two are so
terrible that i'd almost rather deal with the chron's flareups. i am
nauseated all of the time, with my ears ringing and general fluish type
feelings. Also very fatigued and keep a headache. Has anyone else had
this combination of meds and these side effects?

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Mike 5 March 2005 05:01:29 permanent link ]
 Asacol did the exact same thing for me.... it was really awful... I
don't know why asacol was so toxic to me, but it was....

Thanks,

Mike

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Sdores 5 March 2005 16:16:50 permanent link ]
 Hi Mike, it was too me too and what's even stranger is I am on Pentasa and
have a remission from it. I don't know why but I will take it! Glad you are
feeling better. UM MOM Susan
"Mike" <hopital_mike@yahoo­.com> wrote in message
news:1109984489.178­712.226740@l41g2000c­wc.googlegroups.com.­..> Asacol did the exact same thing for me.... it was really awful... I> don't know why asacol was so toxic to me, but it was....>
Thanks,>
Mike>


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Jeff 30 March 2005 00:04:55 permanent link ]
 I take asacol and Cipro too. Last summer I stopped the asacol and after 4
months there was no real change in my symptoms. Then I cut back on some
supplements and eventually stopped taking the Cipro. Within about 6 weeks I
was having a pretty bad flare and thought I was headed for some serious
medical intervention. But before I did that I started back on the
medications and in about 4 weeks things had improved. But not to the point
where I wanted to be. So I made some dietary modifications and went back on
all of the supplements I was on when I was doing my best.

Since then I have improved considerably. So I feel that for me it's a
combination of the right things that is the most effective. The right meds,
diet, supplements, and exercise seems to improve my condition better than
any single part.

tx
Jeff

"annie" <annieluvrose@yahoo­.com> wrote in message
news:1109817879.381­766.291830@l41g2000c­wc.googlegroups.com.­..> hi> i was on dipentum years ago and it was not great for me...asacol has> been much better...> we tried both colazal and pentasa and neither did much...my doctor said> that a lot of it is trial and error with these...what works for one> doesnt work for the next...> dipentum did NOT cause diarrhea for me..it just didnt stop the problems> at all..and i was always on prednisone...> now i am on asacol, cipro and 6mp...no pred for a couple of years> now...hopefully never again...> take care..annie>


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Jeff 30 March 2005 00:19:05 permanent link ]
 I don't think asacol would be indicated in your case since it is designed to
be delivered in the colon and you have CD. It's possible the side effects
were the result of the drug acting in a place where is was not needed.

In a recent post it is clear that the colon does more than previously
thought. I helps in vitamin production and absorption and electrolyte
absorption. Hindering this process could result in other symptoms. In Asian
medical practices they developed a keen awareness of how different symptoms
affect the body in many ways. Often times what my seem like disparate
symptoms are actually related. Ringing in the ears is said to be sometimes
related to kidney functions. It may seem strange at first but if you think
about it whether the kidneys are doing their job or not can effect
substances in the blood and also possibly in the lymphatic system. Blood
circulates throughout the body and the ears are particularly sensitive piece
of mechanics.

But beyond just making these connections they have developed treatment
principles that really work. So it's not just an interesting theory. I
believe that many of the theories actually grew out of observation and
practice which then supported the creation of the theory.

regards,
Jeff



"Sdores" <sdores@bellsouth.n­et> wrote in message
news:enhWd.989$Q83.­857@bignews5.bellsou­th.net...> Hi Mike, it was too me too and what's even stranger is I am on Pentasa and> have a remission from it. I don't know why but I will take it! Glad you
feeling better. UM MOM Susan> "Mike" <hopital_mike@yahoo­.com> wrote in message> news:1109984489.178­712.226740@l41g2000c­wc.googlegroups.com.­..> > Asacol did the exact same thing for me.... it was really awful... I> > don't know why asacol was so toxic to me, but it was....> >
Thanks,> >
Mike> >


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Mike 30 March 2005 09:11:54 permanent link ]
 Jeff wrote:
In a recent post it is clear that the colon does more than previously> thought. I helps in vitamin production and absorption and electrolyte> absorption. Hindering this process could result in other symptoms. In Asian> medical practices they developed a keen awareness of how different symptoms> affect the body in many ways. Often times what my seem like disparate> symptoms are actually related. Ringing in the ears is said to be sometimes> related to kidney functions. It may seem strange at first but if you think> about it whether the kidneys are doing their job or not can effect> substances in the blood and also possibly in the lymphatic system. Blood> circulates throughout the body and the ears are particularly sensitive piece> of mechanics.>

Jeff, I know that you've been doing a lot of research on tinnitus! ;-)­

It makes a lot of snese on many different levels. Do you know what is
the predominant electrolye in the cochlear endolymph? Potassium! The
kidneys regulate potassium and salt. Too much of one, means not enough
of the other. Mess those up, and your ears will not be happy! I won't
even being to talk bout fluid buildup.

Thanks,

Mike
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Guest 24 October 2007 07:57:51 permanent link ]
 "Don't forget Dipentum!!! This is the forgotten drug. It releases like
sulfasalazine (2 molecules bound together and broken apart by the same
intestinal bacteria), but no sulfa. It's 30 years old, and still not
available in generic and almost never prescribed. Apparently, it has a
tendency to cause diarrhea. It did not do that for me.
Thanks,
Mike"

You are right Mike there hasn't been much information on Dipentum,
well I tried to look for some and here's what I got...

Olsalazine is an anti-inflammatory drug used in the treatment of Inflammatory Bowel Disease and Ulcerative Colitis. It is sold under the name Dipentum.

The chemical name is 3,3' -azobis (6-hydroxybenzoate)­salicylic acid. It is sold as the disodium salt.

Like Balsalazide, Olsalazine is believed to deliver Mesalazine, or 5-aminosalicylic acid (5-ASA), past the small intestine, directly to the large intestine, which is that active site of disease in ulcerative colitis
.

Source: http://en.wikipedia­.org/wiki/Olsalazine­

Dipentum side effects

The common side effects of Dipentum that may go away during treatment, include abdominal pain, cramps, or nausea. If they continue or are bothersome, check with your doctor. If diarrhea, rash, or itching is experienced contact your doctor .

Source: http://www.drugdeli­very.ca/s3444-s-DIPE­NTUM.aspx
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