Saturday, 10 June 2006
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| Gut Reaction! Gutreaction 06:42:27 |
| | If you are from Canada you may be interested in Gut Reaction! All Canadian Support Forum For People With Inflammatory Bowel Disease.
We are a new site(3days) so right now it is a little slow, however the more people that join the faster it will grow! We will be featured in the next Crohn's and Colitis Foundation of Canada newsletter and make an appearance on City T.V Breakfast Television! Open call for Moderators, admins and forum captains. Be one of the first to join! Help support fellow Canadians with IBD.
All are welcome! http://gutreaction.phpbbnow.com
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Friday, 9 June 2006
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| Is this some type of Colitis or ... Apu 04:25:13 |
| | Hi All,
I have Ankylosing Spondilitis and am taking 8x500 Azulfidine daily. I am also supposed to have Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS). When I started taking Azulfidine in May last year, a lot of my IBS symtoms went away (gas, bloating, especially in the second half of the day). However, I do get tremendous flare ups of IBS like symptoms from time to time - extreme pain in the abdomen - region below the navel, too much bloating, and diarrhea, loss of appetite etc. These symptoms go away after a few weeks usually. I am in the middle of a similar flare up for the last 8 weeks now.
I have been going to a GI for the last several years and I take Nexium (switched to Protonix recently), and Hyoscamine for the IBS.
I am begining to suspect that this is not simple IBS, although I have never lost weight or had bloody stools etc. But the IBS like symtoms described above are a nuisance and I would like to resolve them somehow. I have had two endoscopy's so far with nothing found.
Would like some input from the collective wisdom of this group. FYI - I am also taking Synthroid 137 mcg for hypo thyroidism, Benicar for high BP, and Zetia for cholesterol - all are within normal range now.
Thanks, Apu
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Thursday, 8 June 2006
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| Future diagnostic tool? Carole Allen 08:52:41 |
| | My son sent me this link. The link has a pic. The article is below.
http://www.newscientisttech.com/article/dn9283-worminspired-robot-crawls-through-intestines.html
A robot designed to crawl through the human gut by mimicking the wriggling motion of an undersea worm has been developed by European scientists. It could one day help doctors diagnose disease by carrying tiny cameras through patients' bodies.
The team behind the robot includes scientists from Italy, Germany, Greece and the UK. They modelled it on polychaetes, or "paddle worms", which use tiny paddles on their body segments to push through sand, mud or water.
"We turned to biological inspiration because, in the peculiar environment of the gut, traditional forms of robotic locomotion don't work," says Arianna Menciassi, a roboticist from the Sant'Anna School of Advanced Studies in Pisa, Italy.
"Worms have locomotion systems suited to such unstructured, slippery environments."
The team studied the way real worms use their paddles to crawl and developed computer models to simulate the motion. The Italian scientists then put together two prototype robots that move in the same way.
Pig gut Videos show an early prototype crawling through a section of pig gut, and a recent version of the robot in a researcher's hand. Further clips show more complex prototypes, with multiple paddles and undulating bodies, wriggling over sand, to simulate the slippery conditions of the gut, and on a flat surface.
Next, the researchers plan to develop a robot equipped with a camera and light source that can capture video footage as it travels. Doctors currently explore the gut using endoscopes, which have to be fed through the body, or "camera pills" that must be swallowed by a patient.
A pill capable of wriggling through the gut on its own could be a valuable tool, says Andrew Gardner, an independent medical imaging expert at University College London.
"Capsules can show you places nothing else can, but you can't stop or slow down when you get to a point of interest," he told New Scientist.
Interesting crevice "Being able to have some control, perhaps even to turn around and go to look in a crevice that would otherwise be missed, would be very valuable."
But Gardner says the system would need careful testing. "If something this complicated goes wrong, it could be very hard to get out." He believes it could take years of laboratory and animal testing before the robot is ready for clinical use.
Menciassi agrees but says the project may have other pay-offs. It could, for example, help biologists to study animal locomotion. "The robots can be used to validate theories about how certain animals move," she says.
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| Re: More Humor Paul P 07:15:06 |
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| Study - Stem Cells Paul P 07:11:56 |
| | Has anyone heard of a Stem Cell Study being conducted for Crohns? Where stem cells are injected, attach them selves to inflamed intestine and heal the inflammation?
PP
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| OT: How Accurate Are Your Pet Pundits? Guest 04:45:18 |
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How Accurate Are Your Pet Pundits? Philip E. Tetlock
Every day, experts bombard us with their views on topics as varied as Iraqi insurgents, Bolivian coca growers, European central bankers, and North Korea's Politburo. But how much credibility should we attach to the opinions of experts?
The sanguine view is that as long as those selling expertise compete vigorously for the attention of discriminating buyers (the mass media), market mechanisms will assure quality control. Pundits who make it into newspaper opinion pages or onto television and radio must have good track records; otherwise, they would have been weeded out.
Skeptics, however, warn that the mass media dictate the voices we hear and are less interested in reasoned debate than in catering to popular prejudices. As a result, fame could be negatively, not positively, correlated with long-run accuracy.
Until recently, no one knew who is right, because no one was keeping score. But the results of a 20-year research project now suggest that the skeptics are closer to the truth. ...
-- Luke
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Wednesday, 7 June 2006
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| Had 1st GI appt today Gamstang 21:14:39 |
| | Hi, I want to say thank you to everyone who has helped me here and given me such good advice.
I had my first GI appt today, some biopsies were taken from the area near my rectum which was very painful. I'm hurting a lot now still.
They are admitting me to hospital for a 2 week stay and I need to go in within one week, the dr thinks I have crohn's. Is it usual to go in for 2 weeks to get a diagnosis for bowel problems?
I was given an anti-spasmodic and a proton pump inhibitor too.
Crohn's doesn't necessarily mean surgery does it? This is a little scary
thanks everyone.
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| Research: New research clarifies roles of calcium, vitamin D, and protein in bone health, fracture r Guest 15:04:14 |
| | http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-06/iof-nrc060506.php
New research clarifies roles of calcium, vitamin D, and protein in bone health, fracture risk
New research shows calcium in food might do more to protect bones than supplemental calcium in pill form, according to results presented at the IOF World Congress on Osteoporosis in Toronto, Canada. Bones lose calcium as they age, making them vulnerable to osteoporosis and fractures.
"We found that people who take just dietary calcium, or a combination of dietary calcium with supplements, have better bone density than those who take supplements alone," explained Dr. Reina Armamento-Villareal of the Washington University School of Medicine, St. Louis, MO (conference abstract P696). "So we think dietary sources are better than supplemental sources by themselves."
In separate presentations, researchers from the Netherlands report that vitamin D supplements reduce fracture risk only in the presence of additional calcium; a new study finds vitamin D deficiency is widespread among European women; and researchers from California add to a growing consensus that high protein foods also promote bone health.
IOF's Bone Appetit campaign, a global initiative focused on the role of nutrition and food in bone health, to be launched on World Osteoporosis Day 2006, 20 October, make these findings especially timely. ... -- Luke
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Tuesday, 6 June 2006
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| Research: Health risks continue well after the surgery is over Guest 06:54:40 |
| | http://www.mcg.edu/news/2006NewsRel/Meiler060506.html
Health risks continue well after the surgery is over
Toni Baker June 5, 2006
Even when all goes well, surgery patients may carry an increased risk of cardiovascular disease and possibly cancer for weeks or even years, say physician-scientists studying the unintended effects of surgery.
"The first insight we take away from this is that when bad things happen down the road, months, maybe even years later, that we cannot, as we have in the past, just attribute it to the natural course of illness," says Dr. Steffen E. Meiler, anesthesiologist and vice chair for research in the Medical College of Georgia Department of Anesthesiology and Perioperative Medicine. "We have to start taking responsibility for some of it, certainly not all of it."
That requires more basic science and human studies to understand the mechanisms underlying ill effects and a concerted effort by all members of the health care team to avoid them, says Dr. Meiler. He talked on this topic at the 53rd Annual Meeting of the Japanese Society of Anesthesiologists June 1-3 and is guest editor of the June issue of Anesthesiology Clinics of North America devoted to the matter.
A few studies have been done across the broad spectrum of the topic, including whether short-term surgical complications, such as infections or pulmonary problems, predict an increase in long-term complications and whether mutations in genes involved in inflammation result in higher stroke rates after cardiopulmonary bypass surgery.
These studies are providing mounting evidence that there are short- and long-term increased risks, particularly for surgery patients with serious underlying disease, says Dr. Meiler. ... -- Luke
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Monday, 5 June 2006
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| OT For broadband and flatrate subscribers Vanny 10:57:43 |
| | Hi there,
While I have been ill I have been amusing myself by surfing - flatrate has made this almost compulsory. I have been very entertained by website youtube. There is a lot of the usual junk posted but if you sift through there will certainly be something for you. Here is a music video from India, which I found very good for the energy levels. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_8ql5sfxes
Here is an amazing juggling act, which I find spellbinding. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyAIRshYC8E
Happy browsing.
Vanny
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Sunday, 4 June 2006
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| What to expect at first GI appointment (UK) Gamstang 21:22:47 |
| | Hi everyone,
I have my first GI appointment in a week's time. I was wondering what to expect from the first appt, are any procedures performed usually at the first appt, or would it be just discussing symptoms?
Many thanks.
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| Glyconutrients again.. Cindy 08:43:05 |
| | Hi Luke,
Thank you for your very thorough reply and your thoughtfulness in checking out the links I provided.
Yes, my Mom and my husband are still doing well on the products, especailly my Mom, she had further tests done and her cancer is still further improving with no conventional treatment just by taking the glyconutritional supplements. My husband had a bit of a setback and got shingles but is now feeling well again and had to increase his dosage of the glyconutrient powder but is feeling well again.
You said: " To save time in the future, I (and I assume other science based skeptics) agree that glycomics is an important field of science. But glycomics is not glyconutrients nor does its study automatically support the use of glyconutrients"
I agree. You are right. However, I do think there are some things out there that do suggest and support that these glyconutrient supplements do help. For some of us this information is enough, for others its not.
The Physicians Desk Reference for example and are under the section that supports the immune system. The www.glycoscience.org site and the http://www.fisherinstitute.org/index.html have articles about case studies (some from PhD's) in the use of glyconutrients to aid in certain diseases, I don't think they are not the double blind, placebo controlled ones you are looking for just case studies.
The patent that Mannatech has on their glyconutrients has been patented and you can look at that to see what it says if you like its very interesting. You can do a quick search at this link. http://patft1.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html Then just type in Mannatech.
In this patent document it lists numerous scientific documents that support their claims of how these supplements operate.
This site offers a program for educating on glyconutrients, and has several conferences about the subject. http://www.proevity.com/Faculty.html you can see there are several PhD's that are on their staff.
Books have been written on the subject. Here are a few.
Miracle Sugars is a book by Rita Elkins, it provides the reader a concise picture of glyconutrients and how they can be integrated into our health.
The Missing Link: The Facts about Glyconutrients by Neecie Moore
Sugars That Heal : The New Healing Science of Glyconutrients by Emil I. Mondoa , Mindy Kitei
Just some ideas on how this evolution of new science has come to light, perhaps it will take several years to get the research you are seeking Luke? I hope they are working on it for the sake of science and those more interested in wanting more.
As for the Mannatech law suits, I don't know all the details but I do know that as an associate you cannot make any claims about these products, some people do and they get into trouble.
Like I said before its not for everyone. For me, I have personally seen it improve my Mothers health, who had Hodgkins Disease, my husbands health who has Crohn's Disease, and recently I have just seen how it has improved a friend who has ALS. His motor skills have improved after a few months on products. I am not claiming it will do great things for you, but if you try you might get results too, or at the very least feel better. Who knows where this will go? But for me, this is enough proof, and its enough for me to want to tell others and encourage them to try it if they choose to do so. If you saw your own Mother and Husband have these results you might be doing what I am doing?
As for multi-level marketing, you do not have to get into that, you can purchase other ways with the company, or not at all! I am not a PhD nor a Doctor, I am just someone who found out about these products, saw results with my own eyes, and wanted to share with others. I do respect your research skills Luke, thanks for your input and time!
Sincerely,
Cindy www.superiorhealth.ca
Hi Cindy,
Cindy wrote:> Hi all, I just wanted to update those of you who may have been interested> before when I posted about how glyconutrients helped my husband with> his Crohn's.
He continues to do well, lots of energy and still with very minor> reprocussions from eating certain foods/drinks.
I have added finally my Mother's testimonial and how she beat her> Hodgkins Disease with the help of these nutrients.
I'm glad to hear that both are doing better, I hope they continue improving.
I have updated my website some more to include a news coverage from an> Oklahoma news station that featured a segment on glyconutrients and how> they helped some children. I have also added some sites where glycomy ( the study of these sugars)> is being done, without the endorsement of the company that sells them.> For those of you who wondering about any real science or studies being> done regarding glyconutritionals.
I couldn't find any definition for glycomy. I think you meant to say " Glycomics" See http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/glycomics. "Glycobiology" may be another term for the same thing but I found less support for it.
Three nice sites dealing with scientists studying sugars in biological systems. Not studying "glyconutrients" though.
I don't think anyone hear disputes that sugars are vital to life but these site do nothing to support the use of simple sugars as dietary supplements.
I don't know much about this site, their "About" page is nothing but contact info, no info on the staff or their credentials or their financing.
Another scientific site dealing with Glycomics, not glyconutrients. I searched the site for the word "glyconutrients" and came up empty. No surprise, this is a scientific site not a supplement site.
Another shill site. The contact info lists some people, only one of the 11 listed has a Ph.D and there are no M.D.s or D.O.s. I found a lot of "news reports" but little of substance.
I admit I didn't thoroughly review all the material on these sites. A quick check of the scientific ones showed no support for glyconutrients
and a similar check of the other sites found little science.
So far I found nothing that I'd want to spend my time on.
I hope you find this information interesting, I wish good health to you> all, these products may or may not work for you, but I do know some> people besides my husband with Crohn's that have benefited from these> products. Some who have Colitis as well.
Cindy, these links don't help me at all. The scientific stuff is just about people studying sugar biology and people have been studying it for decades. The other sites just seem to be shills for those companies selling these sugar pills.
I didn't find one objective scientific study, published in a respected journal using the term glyconutrients in these sites. That alone tells
me more than any "rah rah team" web site will.
For instance, going to pubmed.com and searching for glyconutrients I found 3 articles, searching for glycomics got 7745 articles.
To save time in the future, I (and I assume other science based
skeptics) agree that glycomics is an important field of science. But glycomics is not glyconutrients nor does its study automatically support the use of glyconutrients.
Don't be too hard on me skeptics I am only trying to help.
Why? A ways back we had one person recommending drinking gasoline as a treatment. He was only trying to help too. (And no, eating sugar pills isn't as bad as drinking gasoline but that wasn't my point.)
Try checking out this site and the people who oversee it: http://www.berkeleywellness.com/html/wl/wlMeet.html
Notice the large number of M.D.s, Ph.D.s?
Now check out their take on "glyconutrients". http://www.berkeleywellness.com/html/wl/2006/wlAskExperts0106.html
Q: Can so-called "glyconutrients" boost immunity and cure illness, as claimed?
A: There's no convincing evidence that these supplements enhance the immune system, let alone fight AIDS, colitis, diabetes, high cholesterol, psoriasis, multiple sclerosis, or any other medical condition.
Sold primarily by the supplement manufacturer Mannatech under the product line Ambrotose, glyconutrients contain eight monosaccharides (that is, simple carbohydrates, or sugars). Mannatech alleges that because of soil depletion and overprocessing, our diets are lacking in all but two-glucose and galactose-of these sugars.
You may be surprised to know that sugars are not just "empty" calories but do, in fact, play an essential role in many biological functions, including cell-to-cell communication and immunity. There's actually an emerging and important field of science, called glycobiology, which explores the function of carbohydrates in health and disease. But glyconutrient marketers take a big leap when they say that consuming sugars in supplements has health benefits.
First, we are not deficient in any sugars. Our bodies are able to convert the sugars in foods (such as fruits and vegetables) from one form to the other forms as needed. There is no evidence that toxins, stress, drugs, or other factors interfere with the conversion process, as the marketers claim. Nor is there evidence that relying on our bodies to create the sugars instead of ingesting them in food or supplements causes any problems.
Marketers provide long lists of studies that supposedly support the use
of glyconutrients for all kinds of medical conditions, as well as for general health. But these are unpublished conference presentations, anecdotes, and lab or animal studies, or they are from obscure journals
of questionable reputation. We could find no well-designed research showing health benefits of glyconutrient supplements. Don't waste your money on these expensive products.
Keep in mind: Glyconutrients are sold primarily via multilevel marketing. If you buy the product, you can become a distributor and then sell it to your friends and relatives, who sell it to their friends, etc., with profits passing up to the top of the pyramid, at least in theory. Such marketing often involves questionable practices and dubious health claims. Indeed, Mannatech is being sued by investors
on such charges.
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They raise several points which you could address instead of just posting something that basically says "Scientists are studying sugars therefore glyconutrients are good."
Take one item " Mannatech alleges that because of soil depletion and overprocessing, our diets are lacking in all but two-glucose and galactose-of these sugars"
Can you find any support in published peer reviewed journal articles to support this claim? There is plenty of research in agricultural and
food sciences going back decades. If this claim is true you should be able to find many articles on the subject.
If this claim is false then Mannatech's foundation is weakened, a lot. If we're already getting these sugars in our diet, why supplement?
If it is true you still need to prove all the other links in the chain.
-- Luke
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| Self injections of B12 Melland 00:11:19 |
| | My GI doctor prescribed monthly B12 injections today. I asked him if they were subQ or IM, and he said Subq was fine. I had gestational diabetes during both pregnancies so I'm pretty familiar with giving myself shots of insulin. When the nurse came to give me the first shot, I was expecting a small needle and that she would use in my belly, but she gave me a somewhat painful shot in the muscle of my arm. So I'm confused... should I do it subq or IM? She said she thought it would be painful if I didn't do it in the muscle. I went online and can't find information on the definitive way... most say IM is better, but a few doctors say subq is much better because it works to deliver the B12 more slowly.
I thought the nurse would give me specific instructions, but she really didn't. Anyone have experience or advice with this? Also, have you found it to be helpful? It sounds like there are some good side-effects, such as increased energy, better sleep, weight loss (???).
Thanks for the advice, Melissa
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Saturday, 3 June 2006
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| Ostomyland Weekly Support Chat 3rd June Kathy from England 21:32:59 |
| | Main Chat is Saturday 8pm UK Time which is 3pm EST ish.
Have you been told you need an ostomy (colostomy/ileostomy) to deal with your Crohn's or Ulcerative Colitis? Maybe you have already had this surgery and are coping with it? Or maybe a loved one is dealing with this and you want to support them?
We are an ostomy support group, here to help you with both the practical side of living with your ostomy and the emotional issues.
You will meet people of all ages and with different medical conditions ( not all have IBD). Some have a reversable ostomy, others a permanant one. We also have those who have undergone a reversal or a J pouch.
Don't face it alone.
Want to chat another time? The room is open 24/7 and is usually busy.
***NEW*** online clock to help with those time zones!! Now you can check what time it is in the UK: http://www.ostomylinks.co.uk/chattimes.html
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To join Ostomyland via java go to: http://www.ostomysupport.info/chat.html (Jason's page)
Or http://www.autoimmunity.co.uk/chat/ostomyland2.html (Kathy's back up page)
and join us in the ostomyland chat room from there. A free-to-use Java Client is embedded into the page that is dead easy to use. Nothing to download.
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If you use mIRC, or Besirc or some other IRC Chat Client, here's the server details you need to connect to Ostomyland:
Server: irc.zirc.org Port: 6667 Channel: #ostomyland
If you prefer a specially configured version of mIRC is now available which will take people directly to the new channel on the new server. Full details and the download link can be found at http://www.ostomysupport.info/mirc.html (This is my favourite - mIRC can do so much more!)
WebTV Users, you need to use your own TV based software to join us - included free as part of the WebTV browser software. Use the server and port and channel info when requested by your software to join.
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We often have members who have never been in a chatroom before. Please don't be nervous. These pages will show you exactly what to expect and what to do. If you're still unsure after you've looked at them, email me for help. (Kathy-tas (at) ostomylinks.co.uk)
http://www.ostomylinks.co.uk/chathelp14.html
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Wrong time-zone for you? I shall be in the room 6pm - 9pm Perth (Australia) time, 11am - 2pm UK time on SUNDAY. We usually get a small group in - come and join us.
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The channel is open 24/7 for general chit chat or ostomy talk during the week. If it's quiet, stay a while - someone else may join the room soon.
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Look forward to seeing you in the meeting Saturday night, the weekend or later on in the week.
Kathy
Jason's Living With a Colostomy Website: http://www.ostomysupport.info
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| OT Research (mouse) : Mom's diet can tinker with baby's genes Dietary supplement can make generation Guest 07:00:04 |
| | http://www.nature.com/news/2006/060529/pf/060529-10_pf.html
Mom's diet can tinker with baby's genes Dietary supplement can make generations of mice obese.
Claire Ainsworth
Can too many vitamins be bad for a pregnant mom?
A simple vitamin supplement in a pregnant mouse's diet can make her offspring fatter, according to research presented on 1 June at the Human Genome Organisation meeting in Helsinki, Finland. The effect is thought to be due to chemical changes made to the mother's DNA, which can be passed down the generations.
The study adds to the debate over whether it's a good idea for expectant mothers to up their dietary intake of folic acid, a common supplement used to help lower the incidence of spina bifida.
Rob Waterland and his team at the Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, Texas studied the effects of certain compounds in food, including folic acid and vitamin B12. These compounds are known to add chemical constituents called methyl groups to DNA, which affects the activity of genes: part of a phenomenon called 'epigenetics'.
Other researchers had already shown that adding methyl donors to a female mouse's diet can influence gene activity in her pups. In mice with a mutation in a coat-colour gene called agouti (the mutation is called agouti variable yellow, or Avy), supplementing the diet of pregnant females turns their pup's coats from yellow to brown. Waterland's team later showed that the supplements did this by methylating a bit of DNA that regulates the agouti gene, which effectively turns off the abnormal gene activity caused by the mutation.
Avy mice are also obese. So Waterland's team wanted to see whether this too could be altered by epigenetics. ... -- Luke
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| Ken's Embarrassment: USTANKA's Mexican Enema "Clinic" Guest 05:25:23 |
| | Lisa wrote:> Maybe if we all get stoned, stand in a pool of water after eating lots of> garlic and taking Vitamin E enemas, join a pyramid scheme and think really> hard about everyone we know - we can CURE the entire world!!> Don't forget attending the Mexican "clinic" that treats cancer with flashing colored lights and wheatgrass enemas! (www.sanoviv.com)
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| CT Scan question Rawriter 00:01:22 |
| | Can someone comment on the significance of hepatic fluid and intraabdominal fluid?
Patient was hospitalized for bowl obstruction, which cleared itself up after a day. Cat scan noted: --Free intraabdominal Fluid in pelvis --Dilated small bowel loops without specific mass or abscess --Small amount of free hepatic fluid near the inferior margin of the liver --Granulomatous calcification in the spleen
Patient does not understand the significance of the hepatic fluid ... nor of the intraabdominal Fluid.
Any insight would be appreciated.
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Friday, 2 June 2006
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| Symptoms of folic acid deficiency Scdc 17:10:42 |
| | Would like to know the symptoms of folic acid deficiency and b-12. Also, any other common ones with CD - already taking b-12 and have taken folic acid but not regularly.
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| Research: Gut reaction: Researchers define the colon's genome Guest 17:05:24 |
| | http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-06/tifg-grr052806.php
Gut reaction: Researchers define the colon's genome For the first time, scientists describe the busy microbial world inside Rockville, MD-- For the first time, scientists have defined the collective genome of the human gut, or colon. Up to 100 trillion microbes, representing more than 1,000 species, make up a motley "microbiome" that allows humans to digest much of what we eat, including some vitamins, sugars, and fiber.
In a study published in the June 2 issue of Science, scientists at The Institute for Genomic Research (TIGR) and their colleagues describe and analyze the colon microbiome, which includes more than 60,000 genes--twice as many as found in the human genome. Some of these microbial genes code for enzymes that humans need to digest food, suggesting that bacteria in the colon co-evolved with their human host, to mutual benefit.
"The GI tract has the most abundant, diverse population of bacteria in the human body," remarks lead author Steven Gill, a molecular biologist formerly at TIGR and now at the State University of New York in Buffalo. "We're entirely dependent on this microbial population for our well-being. A shift within this population, often leading to the absence or presence of beneficial microbes, can trigger defects in metabolism and development of diseases such as inflammatory bowel disease." ... -- Luke
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Thursday, 1 June 2006
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| Funny quote from the movie "Garden State" Guest 05:54:26 |
| | Ken.W wrote:> Well the treatment is usually to knock ones
"Why is it always the losers that get caught up in the pyramid schemes?"
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| OT: Another alternative treatment Guest 05:31:34 |
| | http://www.zeenews.com/znnew/print_articles.asp?rep=2&aid=284503&ssid=8&sid=LIF
World's first beer health spa opens in Czech
London, Mar 28: A family brewery in the Czech Republic has opened the world's first beer health centre in its cellar. The Chodovar Family brewery in Chodova Plana offers beer baths, beer massages and beer cosmetics.
The cellar has seven huge Victorian style baths where visitors can swim in beer while enjoying a pint poured at a bathside bar.
"Beer can treat a range of conditions, particularly skin conditions, and the health centre should appeal to men who are put off by 'posh' traditional spas. I have heard of some places in other countries where people can swim in beer but it's just a gimmick. We believe in the healing properties of beer and we offer the full range of treatments. We are a fully-fledged beer spa," Ananova quoted Jiri Plevka, the owner as saying.
The guests are charged 80 pounds for weekend packages, and can indulge in a range of health treatments including beer wraps, starting at 12 pounds per session.
-- Luke
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Wednesday, 31 May 2006
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| Re: Another alternative treatment Phil Jackson 11:18:52 |
| | I think I prefer my beer on the inside! Hic!
Phil J.
<zumone2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1149039693.234991.321050@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...> http://www.zeenews.com/znnew/print_articles.asp?rep=2&aid=284503&ssid=8&sid=LIF>
World's first beer health spa opens in Czech> London, Mar 28: A family brewery in the Czech Republic has opened the> world's first beer health centre in its cellar. The Chodovar Family> brewery in Chodova Plana offers beer baths, beer massages and beer> cosmetics.> The cellar has seven huge Victorian style baths where visitors can swim> in beer while enjoying a pint poured at a bathside bar.> "Beer can treat a range of conditions, particularly skin conditions,> and the health centre should appeal to men who are put off by 'posh'> traditional spas. I have heard of some places in other countries where> people can swim in beer but it's just a gimmick. We believe in the> healing properties of beer and we offer the full range of treatments.> We are a fully-fledged beer spa," Ananova quoted Jiri Plevka, the owner> as saying.> The guests are charged 80 pounds for weekend packages, and can indulge> in a range of health treatments including beer wraps, starting at 12> pounds per session.> --> Luke>
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| My GI has the opposite problem Karen 08:15:01 |
| | I can't get him to GIVE me a diagnosis. My first colonoscopy showed inflammation in the sigmoid colon and the cecum. Biopsy was consistent with a UC diagnosis. Treated with Asacol and Rowasa.
A year later a flare that mostly involved joint pain had me back in his office and we changed my 5-ASA to Pentasa. That seems to be working better. I still need the Rowasa enemas, of course. DR simply says I have IBD and goes no further.
I also apparently have GERD and had a stricture in my esophagus. Not necessarily a symptom of CD, but I don't really know. I still have joint pain, but I have never had a fever or iritis or skin conditions associated with CD. My last GI series w/small bowel was something like 6 years ago, so I have no idea if I have any inflammation in the ileum, but I assume that I do since I FEEL weird in the ileum area, if that makes sense.
To me, the ultimate diagnosis is not that important, as long as there are treatment strategies to deal with the symptoms. No one can cure you of CD. If you have UC I guess you can be "cured" by having your entire colon removed, but that is a pretty severe approach. If you know you have UC then I guess you would be hypervigilant about colonoscopy to look for colon cancer, but I think all of us with IBD are in for biannual scopes regardless of diagnosis.
I'm sorry you're not feeling well and I so hope that the Remicade helps soon.
Karen
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