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Jamie Dolan 11 June 2007 23:17:17
 HI,

I think that I have aspburgers.

Do you know if any good web site to point me to that can help me figure out
if I have this or not? and that give me more information about the disorder.

--
-Jamie


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Rapum Lucidum 11 January 2005 06:50:13 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 02:35:47 GMT, "jamie dolan" <jamie@ashwoodinc.c­om>
wrote:
HI,>
I think that I have aspburgers.>
Do you know if any good web site to point me to that can help me figure out >if I have this or not? and that give me more information about the disorder.

A good way to start might be to post here some information about why
you think you have AS (if you feel able to talk about such things
which may be quite personal) so that you can discuss it with 'real'
people rather than just go by lists etc. That's how many of us started
with alt.support.autism :-)­



--
The Luminous Turnip
[professionally self-dx'd AS]
Spectrum code:
AS d- s:- a-- c++>+++ p+>+++ t+(+++) f-(--) S+ p@ e+>+++ h++ r-->+-+-+- n*(+) i+++++ P- m(+) M@
(well depends what day it is really)
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Gareeth 11 January 2005 11:31:45 permanent link ]
 
"jamie dolan" <jamie@ashwoodinc.c­om> wrote in message
news:hgKEd.13691$by­5.12535@newssvr19.ne­ws.prodigy.com...>I think this means I have asburgers, what do you think....>
It's Asperger's not asburgers.

Gareeth


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Jamie Dolan 11 January 2005 11:43:40 permanent link ]
 Sorry.

I have always had spelling problems.

Is that part of this disorder or part of an additional disorder I have?

:-)­

--
-Jamie
"Gareeth" <Gareethnews@hotmai­l.com> wrote in message
news:34hdn0F48tgmhU­1@individual.net...>­
"jamie dolan" <jamie@ashwoodinc.c­om> wrote in message > news:hgKEd.13691$by­5.12535@newssvr19.ne­ws.prodigy.com...>>I­ think this means I have asburgers, what do you think....>>
It's Asperger's not asburgers.>
Gareeth>


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Gareeth 11 January 2005 11:46:21 permanent link ]
 
"jamie dolan" <jamie@ashwoodinc.c­om> wrote in message
news:MsLEd.13705$by­5.9286@newssvr19.new­s.prodigy.com...> Sorry.>
I have always had spelling problems.>
Is that part of this disorder or part of an additional disorder I have?

Probably additional or you could just be a rotten speller. I didn't want to
make a big deal of it but you wouldn't get far doing searches for info with
it spelled wrong.

Gareeth


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Jamie Dolan 11 January 2005 11:48:21 permanent link ]
 Thanks :-)­

The spell checker that is build into google has saved my life. My spelling
is so bad that I use an entirelly differnt vocuabulary on paper / typed than
I do verbally.

Meaning my vocabulary when I am speaking sounds like I am at a collage level
or above.

When I am typeing, I sound like I am in 5th grade.

Even with a spell checker I can not figure out how to spell a lot of words.

it Sucks!!

--
-Jamie
"Gareeth" <Gareethnews@hotmai­l.com> wrote in message
news:34heicF48q15kU­1@individual.net...>­
"jamie dolan" <jamie@ashwoodinc.c­om> wrote in message > news:MsLEd.13705$by­5.9286@newssvr19.new­s.prodigy.com...>> Sorry.>>
I have always had spelling problems.>>
Is that part of this disorder or part of an additional disorder I have?>
Probably additional or you could just be a rotten speller. I didn't want > to make a big deal of it but you wouldn't get far doing searches for info > with it spelled wrong.>
Gareeth>


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Janna Hoskin 11 January 2005 11:48:26 permanent link ]
 jamie dolan wrote:> Sorry.>
I have always had spelling problems.>
Is that part of this disorder or part of an additional disorder I have?>
:-)­>

Probably an additional disorder, if you can call it that.

You mentioned that you have dysgraphia. I'm sure someone else will know
more than I about it, but possibly dysgraphia has had an impact on your
spelling ability.

And, some people are just really bad spellers, regardless. No disorder
or anything like that, they just can't spell.

-Janna
--
Autistic Spectrum Code v.1.0AC> d- s+: a- c+ p+ t f S+ !p e++>+++ h+>++ r->++ n+ i P+>++ m->++ M++>+++

Early Birds Program Assistant (special needs 1:1 preschool)
Autism Support Worker (independent contractor)
ABA/IBI Therapist (independent contractor)
Calgary, AB, Canada
BMus, BAPsych

*******************­********************­********************­****************
"Home is not a place. It is wherever your passion takes you." -
President John Sheridan, Babylon 5 (Objects At Rest, Production #522)
"If you don't like the way the world is, you change it. You have an
obligation to change it. You just do it one step at a time. You really
can change the world if you care enough." - Mary Wright Edelman
"Nobody else is stronger than I am, today I moved a mountain! I'd like
to be your hero, I am a mighty little man!" - Steve Burns, "Mighty
Little Man" (Songs For Dustmites, 2003)
http://geocities.co­m/janna_louise
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Jamie Dolan 11 January 2005 11:50:20 permanent link ]
 I proboly just cant spell.

the words just dont spell the way they sound to me.

I think it sound one way, and i type it the way it sounds, but then it is
spelled completly wrong....

People make fun of my all the time for it.

Espeicall with work e-mails. But even with the spell checker, I often have
trouble figuring out how to get the word spelled correctly.

sucks..



--
-Jamie
"Janna Hoskin" <treatautism@shaw.c­a> wrote in message
news:34helhF4b2l39U­2@individual.net...>­ jamie dolan wrote:>> Sorry.>>
I have always had spelling problems.>>
Is that part of this disorder or part of an additional disorder I have?>>
:-)­>>
Probably an additional disorder, if you can call it that.>
You mentioned that you have dysgraphia. I'm sure someone else will know > more than I about it, but possibly dysgraphia has had an impact on your > spelling ability.>
And, some people are just really bad spellers, regardless. No disorder or > anything like that, they just can't spell.>
-Janna> -- > Autistic Spectrum Code v.1.0> AC> d- s+: a- c+ p+ t f S+ !p e++>+++ h+>++ r->++ n+ i P+>++ m->++ M++>+++>
Early Birds Program Assistant (special needs 1:1 preschool)> Autism Support Worker (independent contractor)> ABA/IBI Therapist (independent contractor)> Calgary, AB, Canada> BMus, BAPsych>
*******************­********************­********************­****************> "Home is not a place. It is wherever your passion takes you." -> President John Sheridan, Babylon 5 (Objects At Rest, Production #522)> "If you don't like the way the world is, you change it. You have an> obligation to change it. You just do it one step at a time. You really> can change the world if you care enough." - Mary Wright Edelman> "Nobody else is stronger than I am, today I moved a mountain! I'd like> to be your hero, I am a mighty little man!" - Steve Burns, "Mighty> Little Man" (Songs For Dustmites, 2003)> http://geocities.co­m/janna_louise> *******************­********************­********************­****************


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DRosent288 11 January 2005 12:13:39 permanent link ]
 My score was 131--a near-average Aspie.
alamosaurus@aol.com­
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Jeremy Reece 11 January 2005 12:26:46 permanent link ]
 jamie dolan wrote:> I think that I have aspburgers.>
Do you know if any good web site to point me to that can help me figure out > if I have this or not? and that give me more information about the disorder.

<http://www.mcdonal­ds.com>

Sorry... <grin> but you may find you can find more relevant stuff if you
look for "aspergers" ;)

--
Jeremy Reece

A d-(---) s:-->: a-- c+++ p+ t+(-)@ f(-)
S+ p+ e+>++ h+ r+>++ n+() i@ P->+ m(-) M---
http://www32.brinks­ter.com/ascdecode/
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Jamie Dolan 11 January 2005 13:11:43 permanent link ]
 I must be really messed up then.

Mine was soooo high..

Does that mean I am a bad aspie?????????



--
-Jamie
"DRosent288" <drosent288@aol.com­> wrote in message
news:20050111031339­.09758.00000035@mb-m­18.aol.com...> My score was 131--a near-average Aspie.> alamosaurus@aol.com­


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Jamie Dolan 11 January 2005 13:12:41 permanent link ]
 yea.

I know my spelling sucks

Do you have to know how to spell to work at mcdonalds?


Maybe just enough to fill out the application????


--
-Jamie
"Jeremy Reece" <jreece_usenet@yaho­o.co.uk> wrote in message
news:34hgu6F44rhctU­1@individual.net...>­ jamie dolan wrote:>> I think that I have aspburgers.>>
Do you know if any good web site to point me to that can help me figure >> out if I have this or not? and that give me more information about the >> disorder.>
Sorry... <grin> but you may find you can find more relevant stuff if you > look for "aspergers" ;)>
-- > Jeremy Reece>
A d-(---) s:-->: a-- c+++ p+ t+(-)@ f(-)> S+ p+ e+>++ h+ r+>++ n+() i@ P->+ m(-) M---> http://www32.brinks­ter.com/ascdecode/


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Shena Delian O'Brien 11 January 2005 15:03:08 permanent link ]
 Janna Hoskin wrote:>
You mentioned that you have dysgraphia. I'm sure someone else will know > more than I about it, but possibly dysgraphia has had an impact on your > spelling ability.

Dysgraphia has nothing to do with spelling. My husband has dysgraphia
and he is a great speller.
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Colin 11 January 2005 16:31:35 permanent link ]
 
"DRosent288" <drosent288@aol.com­> wrote in message
news:20050111031339­.09758.00000035@mb-m­18.aol.com...> My score was 131--a near-average Aspie.> alamosaurus@aol.com­

Mine was 145

Colin


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Sarah 11 January 2005 17:31:16 permanent link ]
 I got 161 (now) 165 (earlier). That doesn't seem right.

Sarah
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Joe S. 11 January 2005 18:44:35 permanent link ]
 
jamie dolan wrote:> I must be really messed up then.>
Mine was soooo high..>
Does that mean I am a bad aspie?????????
No, it means most of the rest of us
envy you :)­

--Joe

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Joe S. 11 January 2005 18:52:40 permanent link ]
 
jamie dolan wrote:> Meaning my vocabulary when I am speaking sounds like I am at a
collage level> or above.>
When I am typeing, I sound like I am in 5th grade.

Now, that is unusual in ASD, I think. However, you can never
predict strengths & weaknesses in this condition.

--Joe

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Gareeth 11 January 2005 19:12:41 permanent link ]
 
"Janna Hoskin" <treatautism@shaw.c­a> wrote in message
news:34helhF4b2l39U­2@individual.net...>­ You mentioned that you have dysgraphia. I'm sure someone else will know > more than I about it, but possibly dysgraphia has had an impact on your > spelling ability.>
Spelling problems are not part of dysgraphia.

Gareeth


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Ares 11 January 2005 19:29:05 permanent link ]
 I guess that wasn't related to the thought I had about snake burgers when I
saw the thread, eh?
ares

"Jeremy Reece" <jreece_usenet@yaho­o.co.uk> wrote in message
news:34hgu6F44rhctU­1@individual.net...>­> <http://www.mcdonal­ds.com>>
Sorry... <grin> but you may find you can find more relevant stuff if you> look for "aspergers" ;)>
-- > Jeremy Reece>
A d-(---) s:-->: a-- c+++ p+ t+(-)@ f(-)> S+ p+ e+>++ h+ r+>++ n+() i@ P->+ m(-) M---> http://www32.brinks­ter.com/ascdecode/


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Colin 11 January 2005 20:33:29 permanent link ]
 
"Sarah" <sarah.nospam@gmail­.com> wrote in message
news:34i2p4F4bh3kvU­1@individual.net...>­ I got 161 (now) 165 (earlier). That doesn't seem right.>
Sarah

Are you more adjusted now than when you were younger I know the "prefers
company of older people" less relevant now as I am one of the older people.

Still I went from 135 to 145 so I must be on a slippery slope.

Might just be the weighting - It has been suggested that it is flawed.

Colin


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Colin 11 January 2005 20:39:44 permanent link ]
 
"ares" <ares@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:5hSEd.15386$lG­.11374@trnddc03...> I guess that wasn't related to the thought I had about snake burgers when
saw the thread, eh?> ares>
Can you supersize a snake - shivers at the thought!

Colin


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Sarah 11 January 2005 20:54:51 permanent link ]
 I think it must be flawed because I'm sure I'm not *that* autistic :)­.
Actually I am but I like to think I'm not or I just haven't worked out
the depth of my autisticness yet.

Sarah

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Colin 11 January 2005 21:03:51 permanent link ]
 
"Sarah" <sarah.nospam@gmail­.com> wrote in message
news:34iemrF4cdb00U­1@individual.net...>­ I think it must be flawed because I'm sure I'm not *that* autistic :)­.> Actually I am but I like to think I'm not or I just haven't worked out> the depth of my autisticness yet.>
Sarah>

How Autisitic is autistic? Until I started reading I thought I was normal
and everyone else was screwed up - come to think of it nothing has
changed!!!!!!

Colin


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Rowe Rickenbacker 11 January 2005 21:23:18 permanent link ]
 Gareeth wrote:
jamie dolan wrote:>
I think this means I have asburgers, what do you think....>
It's Asperger's not asburgers.

Argh! My world has just been turned upside-down!

Rowe
zufferiug frow wirroreq letter zynqrowe.
--
I am a hat of justice perched upon the heads of the wicked.
Feel my soft felt lining and quiver, villain!
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Rowe Rickenbacker 11 January 2005 21:28:06 permanent link ]
 Jeremy Reece wrote:
jamie dolan wrote:>
I think that I have aspburgers.>>
Do you know if any good web site to point me to that can help me >

They don't do snake-burgers, do they?!

Rowe
gonna look at those ingredients
lists more closely in the future...
--
I am a hat of justice perched upon the heads of the wicked.
Feel my soft felt lining and quiver, villain!
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Hylander 11 January 2005 21:31:01 permanent link ]
 
Jeremy Reece wrote:> jamie dolan wrote:> > I think that I have aspburgers.> >
Do you know if any good web site to point me to that can help me
figure out> > if I have this or not? and that give me more information about the
disorder.>
Sorry... <grin> but you may find you can find more relevant stuff if
look for "aspergers" ;)

I found a group of priests armed with holy water. Is that a new cure?
H

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Matt 11 January 2005 21:34:57 permanent link ]
 "Colin" <Bigcol2@btinternet­.com> wrote in
news:cs0vgg$jt3$1@t­itan.btinternet.com:­
"ares" <ares@verizon.net> wrote in message> news:5hSEd.15386$lG­.11374@trnddc03...>>­ I guess that wasn't related to the thought I had about>> snake burgers when > I>> saw the thread, eh?>> ares>>
Can you supersize a snake - shivers at the thought!>
Colin>

Reminds me of a game I've been playing - Metal Gear Solid 3:
Snake Eater. :)­
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Sarah 11 January 2005 21:37:18 permanent link ]
 How Autisitic is autistic? Until I started reading I thought I was normal> and everyone else was screwed up - come to think of it nothing has> changed!!!!!!

I think it's to do with how I think I seem to other people. I used to
think that I could act and fitted in but always got overloaded.
Nowadays I don't bother acting and just do whatever seems right. I
could have filled that questionnaire in a while back ad got a totally
different number. I think that at home my oddity was responded to by
teaching me to act which I paid for a lot with overload. I know I'm not
like other people (well, I'm like other autistic people anyway) but it's
strange getting used to that. Dunno if I'm talking drivel or making
sense. Oh well.

Sarah

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Rowe Rickenbacker 11 January 2005 22:17:40 permanent link ]
 Colin wrote:
ares wrote:>
I guess that wasn't related to the thought I had about snake>> burgers when I saw the thread, eh?>
Can you supersize a snake - shivers at the thought!

They'd be more like sausages, anyway :)­

Rowe
--
I am a hat of justice perched upon the heads of the wicked.
Feel my soft felt lining and quiver, villain!
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Rowe Rickenbacker 11 January 2005 22:20:36 permanent link ]
 Matt wrote:
Colin wrote:>
ares wrote:>>
I guess that wasn't related to the thought I had about snake>>> burgers when I saw the thread, eh?>>
Can you supersize a snake - shivers at the thought!>
Reminds me of a game I've been playing - Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake> Eater. :)­

LOL

Rowe
Walks into McDonalds "one aspburger, please!"
Eats.
Game over.
--
I am a hat of justice perched upon the heads of the wicked.
Feel my soft felt lining and quiver, villain!
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Rapum Lucidum 11 January 2005 23:38:36 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:54:51 +0000, Sarah <sarah.nospam@gmail­.com>
wrote:
I think it must be flawed because I'm sure I'm not *that* autistic :)­. >Actually I am but I like to think I'm not or I just haven't worked out >the depth of my autisticness yet.>

The exact score probably depends a lot on whether someone's ASD
characteristics happen match up with those checked by the test, and
also their interpretation of the test. So someone could feel very
autistic but have a low score, or feel not very autistic but just
happen to relate to a lot of things in the test.

--
The Luminous Turnip
[professionally self-dx'd AS]
Spectrum code:
AS d- s:- a-- c++>+++ p+>+++ t+(+++) f-(--) S+ p@ e+>+++ h++ r-->+-+-+- n*(+) i+++++ P- m(+) M@
(well depends what day it is really)
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Jeremy Reece 12 January 2005 00:06:43 permanent link ]
 Colin wrote:> Might just be the weighting - It has been suggested that it is flawed.

A problem with the test is that when I tried to say that I don't adhere
to a given trait as rigidly now as when I was younger, I was forced into
'down-playing' my current situation.

It might have extended the test time but more options (0 to 5 for
example) would've allowed me to say what I wanted to more easily.

Also, there are too many questions. I got bored and started to lose
interest towards the end and took later questions less seriously than
earlier ones.

119/162 by the way, which is rubbish. I'm as much as an autie now as I
was then, I just don't throw things* and stamp my feet any more ;)

*as much...

--
Jeremy Reece

A d-(---) s:-->: a-- c+++ p+ t+(-)@ f(-)
S+ p+ e+>++ h+ r+>++ n+() i@ P->+ m(-) M---
http://www32.brinks­ter.com/ascdecode/
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Sarah 12 January 2005 00:41:29 permanent link ]
 Good point. That's why I score low on those nerdy-type ones 'cause I'm
not really like that but definetly an autie.

Sarah
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The autist formerly known as 12 January 2005 00:45:22 permanent link ]
 As I have told SBC's team before but they have conciosly created an
artificial construct of a test to force the ansers in a particular way there
is no accident about it, they apparantly know what they are doing and I
think that is reprehensible. Outside of its use as a parlour game or
diagnostic tool it would not last long even in the wooly disciplines of
sociology as a serios reserch tool.


--
юT

L'autisme c'est moi

"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"

"Jack" <jjackm@invalid.now­here.com> wrote in message
news:QSKEd.6926$mo2­.467145@news.xtra.co­.nz...> jamie dolan wrote:>

I think that this test is a good one. But WHY does it have the same> weighting (1 point) for all answers?> Wouldn't it be more sensible to score "Definitely agree" and "Definitely> disagree" as 2 points, and "Slightly agree" and "Slightly disagree" as 1> point?> Even better would be to score the more important AS indicators a bit> higher than others. This would be easy to do; the test is being done by> a computer after all.>
Naturally the whole trial will have to be rescored. But this should be> done. Then the test would be even more useful.>


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The autist formerly known as 12 January 2005 00:50:58 permanent link ]
 My vocabulary is beyond what would conventionally be called college level
because it still perplexes those who consider themselves students and is
beyond many lecturers too. I guess it is a good way beyond SBC's but then
they have the results of there conventional tests on that do they not, and
what they prove is that my understanding of vocabulary is beyond what the
tests set out to prove, being normed on something very different from me
hence I score oddly.

I know how to score correctly but I also know that what is correct in the
context of the tests is wrong by other criteria outside of them.

And the irony gets worse as, SBC at the NAS agm was using the term
"mathematics" with little understanding of what it actually meant himself
and I had to explain it to him, being a person who is technically very weak
in the subject.


--
юT

L'autisme c'est moi

"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"



"Joe S." <booxplode@yahoo.co­m> wrote in message
news:1105455160.500­489.215600@f14g2000c­wb.googlegroups.com.­..>
jamie dolan wrote:
Now, that is unusual in ASD, I think. However, you can never> predict strengths & weaknesses in this condition.>
--Joe>


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The autist formerly known as 12 January 2005 00:54:27 permanent link ]
 Actually he is not entirely wrong as that former fount of all knowlege Alwyn
late of this list pointed out the derivation of the Austrian doctors family
name being a corruption of Asch Berger the perg sylable however we pronounce
it being a corruption in speech of Berg or mountain

p and b being a particular labial formation that get confused the
differentiation not even existing in some languages

So there.


--
юT

L'autisme c'est moi

"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"




"Gareeth" <Gareethnews@hotmai­l.com> wrote in message
news:34hdn0F48tgmhU­1@individual.net...>­
"jamie dolan" <jamie@ashwoodinc.c­om> wrote in message> news:hgKEd.13691$by­5.12535@newssvr19.ne­ws.prodigy.com...> >I think this means I have asburgers, what do you think....> >
It's Asperger's not asburgers.>
Gareeth>


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The autist formerly known as 12 January 2005 00:55:48 permanent link ]
 Are they of an order called the Aparagi I wonder :)­



"Hylander" <john.gagon@gmail.c­om> wrote in message
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I found a group of priests armed with holy water. Is that a new cure?> H>


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Morris 12 January 2005 01:09:29 permanent link ]
 Graham W wrote:> jamie dolan wrote:>
HI,>>
I think that I have aspburgers.>>
Do you know if any good web site to point me to that can help me >> figure out if I have this or not? and that give me more information >> about the disorder.>

rdos score 162
AQ test 47
SQ test 51
EQ test 11
BBC IQ test 150

Do I pass?

Morris
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Hylander 12 January 2005 01:11:41 permanent link ]
 
The autist formerly known as wrote:> Are they of an order called the Aparagi I wonder :)­>

the Aparagi are well known in Milan but these were the Asparagus of
Greece.

"Hylander" <john.gagon@gmail.c­om> wrote in message> news:1105464661.831­403.159600@c13g2000c­wb.googlegroups.com.­..> >
I found a group of priests armed with holy water. Is that a new
cure?> > H> >

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Morris 12 January 2005 01:20:01 permanent link ]
 rapum lucidum wrote:> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:54:51 +0000, Sarah <sarah.nospam@gmail­.com>> wrote:>
I think it must be flawed because I'm sure I'm not *that* autistic :)­. >>Actually I am but I like to think I'm not or I just haven't worked out >>the depth of my autisticness yet.>>
The exact score probably depends a lot on whether someone's ASD> characteristics happen match up with those checked by the test, and> also their interpretation of the test. So someone could feel very> autistic but have a low score, or feel not very autistic but just> happen to relate to a lot of things in the test.>

I score more highly than I think I should, but then I let my *real* self
answer, rather than the person I've spent 30 odd years trying to become.

After all, it's very difficult to actually admit to your nearest and
dearest that the computer or cricket statistics come first :-)­

Morris
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Rapum Lucidum 12 January 2005 01:27:27 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:41:29 +0000, Sarah <sarah.nospam@gmail­.com>
wrote:
Good point. That's why I score low on those nerdy-type ones 'cause I'm >not really like that but definetly an autie.>

That's a bit like me and the AQ test: originally I'd get higher than
NT but lower than average AS type results because I wouldn't say that
I don't want to socialise at all etc... but then I'd end up with
higher scores when I started interpreting the questions a bit more
liberally, and going by what I could find difficult.

--
The Luminous Turnip
[professionally self-dx'd AS]
Spectrum code:
AS d- s:- a-- c++>+++ p+>+++ t+(+++) f-(--) S+ p@ e+>+++ h++ r-->+-+-+- n*(+) i+++++ P- m(+) M@
(well depends what day it is really)
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The autist formerly known as 12 January 2005 01:33:37 permanent link ]
 Not in my books, believing the tests is a fail point.

--
юT

L'autisme c'est moi

"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"

"Morris" <morris@nospam.clin­g> wrote in message
news:dgXEd.103978$4­8.26759@fe1.news.blu­eyonder.co.uk...> Graham W wrote:> > jamie dolan wrote:> >
HI,> >>
I think that I have aspburgers.> >>
Do you know if any good web site to point me to that can help me> >> figure out if I have this or not? and that give me more information> >> about the disorder.> >
rdos score 162> AQ test 47> SQ test 51> EQ test 11> BBC IQ test 150>
Do I pass?>
Morris


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Morris 12 January 2005 01:59:32 permanent link ]
 The autist formerly known as wrote:> Not in my books, believing the tests is a fail point.>

Oh.

:-(­
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Molybdenum 12 January 2005 02:22:53 permanent link ]
 Morris wrote:> The autist formerly known as wrote:>
Not in my books, believing the tests is a fail point.>>
Oh.>
:-(­

Speaking of stopping something dead in it's tracks...

;)




Monica

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The autist formerly known as 12 January 2005 02:27:22 permanent link ]
 Tests at best are only indicators, you always have in real life to rule out
other explanations for the results before you can confirm AS.

The most critical thing is whether the propensities that the tests measure
have existed since childhood, but in order to know that you would have to
deconstruct the tests.

However if you have deconstructed the tests then there is a danger that is
commonly experienced in sociological studies of participant awareness
affecting the outcomes, in that you anser what you think the resercher wants
to here, or what you want them to here.

For me, having read about SBC's work and his hypotheses skews any result you
might get off me, so I simply refuse to anser those tests without
considerable annotation.

I don't know how they got round that, but in effect I forced them to anser
certain questions from there own observations rather than my own.


--
юT

L'autisme c'est moi

"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"


"Morris" <morris@nospam.clin­g> wrote in message
news:8%XEd.121373$Z­7.70176@fe2.news.blu­eyonder.co.uk...> The autist formerly known as wrote:> > Not in my books, believing the tests is a fail point.> >
Oh.>
:-(­


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Gareeth 12 January 2005 02:53:29 permanent link ]
 
"The autist formerly known as" <NDA@larry-arnold.c­om> wrote in message
news:34iso2F4cjtqrU­1@individual.net...>­ Actually he is not entirely wrong as that former fount of all knowlege > Alwyn> late of this list pointed out the derivation of the Austrian doctors > family> name being a corruption of Asch Berger the perg sylable however we > pronounce> it being a corruption in speech of Berg or mountain>
It wasn't remotely close to even Asch Berger. And whatever you say about the
derivation of the family name the syndrome has a name.

Gareeth


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Sarah 12 January 2005 03:03:55 permanent link ]
 
After all, it's very difficult to actually admit to your nearest and > dearest that the computer or cricket statistics come first :-)­

Lol. Been there (well, not with cricket..)

Sarah
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Sarah 12 January 2005 03:06:17 permanent link ]
 
That's a bit like me and the AQ test: originally I'd get higher than> NT but lower than average AS type results because I wouldn't say that> I don't want to socialise at all etc... but then I'd end up with> higher scores when I started interpreting the questions a bit more> liberally, and going by what I could find difficult.>

Yeah, I used to think of myself as sociable but I'm not, I would have
just spoken to someone for 20 mins that day and felt that it was
sociable. Lol. I think you have to know how to answer the questions as
they mean them, which means getting into the head of the person who
wrote them. Not my strong point!!

Sarah
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Morris 12 January 2005 03:15:48 permanent link ]
 The autist formerly known as wrote:> Tests at best are only indicators, you always have in real life to rule out> other explanations for the results before you can confirm AS.>
The most critical thing is whether the propensities that the tests measure> have existed since childhood, but in order to know that you would have to> deconstruct the tests.>
However if you have deconstructed the tests then there is a danger that is> commonly experienced in sociological studies of participant awareness> affecting the outcomes, in that you anser what you think the resercher wants> to here, or what you want them to here.>
For me, having read about SBC's work and his hypotheses skews any result you> might get off me, so I simply refuse to anser those tests without> considerable annotation.>
I don't know how they got round that, but in effect I forced them to anser> certain questions from there own observations rather than my own.>

I couldn't answer many of the questions in any of the autism-related
tests *really* honestly. The right answers were never given among the
limited options available. The IQ test was a lot easier :-)­

Morris
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Morris 12 January 2005 03:23:25 permanent link ]
 Molybdenum wrote:> Morris wrote:>
The autist formerly known as wrote:>>
Not in my books, believing the tests is a fail point.>>>
Oh.>>
:-(­>
Speaking of stopping something dead in it's tracks...>
;)>
Monica>

It's good to know I'm not the only one :-D­

Morris
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Mooncat 12 January 2005 03:38:23 permanent link ]
 My God!

I've just done the Empathy Quotient test and got 12; most men get a
rating of about 42, apparently. The lowest range is 0 - 32, with
aspergers averaging below 20.

I got 33 in the AQ test. Eighty percent of those diagnosed with autism
or a related disorder scored 32 or higher. I got a score of 59 in the SQ
test as well (men average 30).

Perhaps I should have a little lie down.

Mooncat

Graham W wrote:> Various online "tests":> http://www.rdos.net­/eng/Aspie-quiz.php>­ http://www.wired.co­m/wired/archive/9.12­/aqtest.html> http://www.guardian­.co.uk/life/flash/pa­ge/0,13249,937836,00­.html> http://www.guardian­.co.uk/life/flash/pa­ge/0,13249,937835,00­.html
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Colin 12 January 2005 03:49:04 permanent link ]
 
"Sarah" <sarah.nospam@gmail­.com> wrote in message
news:34ih6eF3f25lfU­1@individual.net...>­ How Autisitic is autistic? Until I started reading I thought I was
normal> > and everyone else was screwed up - come to think of it nothing has> > changed!!!!!!>
I think it's to do with how I think I seem to other people. I used to> think that I could act and fitted in but always got overloaded.> Nowadays I don't bother acting and just do whatever seems right. I> could have filled that questionnaire in a while back ad got a totally> different number. I think that at home my oddity was responded to by> teaching me to act which I paid for a lot with overload. I know I'm not> like other people (well, I'm like other autistic people anyway) but it's> strange getting used to that. Dunno if I'm talking drivel or making> sense. Oh well.>
Sarah

I used to throwmyself into a lot of social things when I was younger - guess
I was actually trying to find something I was good and no prizes for working
out the results of these ventures.

The only place I ever felt remotely comfortable (apart from home) was in the
military - but even then it was hard as I know there were better ways to do
things but you have to obey orders - structure and order is good up to a
point, but if it deviates from what helps you survive then it become more of
a hinderence.

FAO of HM Government - thanks for the poor fitting woolen trousers and
jumpers to go with the classy nylon shirts - hate the feel of those clothes
now -generally dress in what I find next to the bed and then wear it to bed.
My wife no longer buys herself woolen clothes because I will not let her
come near me when she wears it.

Drivel - well thats something I can do - see dripping goo above!!!!!!!!

Colin



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Colin 12 January 2005 03:54:22 permanent link ]
 
"Rowe Rickenbacker" <rowerickenbacker@b­lueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:34ijhuF49u0l6U­1@individual.net...>­ Colin wrote:>
ares wrote:> >
I guess that wasn't related to the thought I had about snake> >> burgers when I saw the thread, eh?> >
Can you supersize a snake - shivers at the thought!>
They'd be more like sausages, anyway :)­>
Rowe> -- > I am a hat of justice perched upon the heads of the wicked.> Feel my soft felt lining and quiver, villain!

I was thinking of of supersizing an Bacon Double Asp Burger - how much bacon
would you have to use to seperate two irate Asp's (if they still alive)
Hah! we get to bite the snakes for a change!

Must pop down to my local Fasp Food Chain and use the Slither Through
facility.

Colin


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Colin 12 January 2005 04:25:59 permanent link ]
 
"Mooncat" <mooncatmail@hotmai­l.com> wrote in message
news:P­rZEd.637$0G6.­121@newsfe6-win.ntli­.net...> My God!>
I've just done the Empathy Quotient test and got 12; most men get a> rating of about 42, apparently. The lowest range is 0 - 32, with> aspergers averaging below 20.>
I got 33 in the AQ test. Eighty percent of those diagnosed with autism> or a related disorder scored 32 or higher. I got a score of 59 in the SQ> test as well (men average 30).>
Perhaps I should have a little lie down.>
Mooncat>

AQ - 40
EQ -12 (how do I hold down a relationship?)
SQ - 34

Too many of these questions didn't fit me though - but based on my empathy
should I care?

Colin


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Sarah 12 January 2005 04:31:51 permanent link ]
 
The only place I ever felt remotely comfortable (apart from home) was in the> military - but even then it was hard as I know there were better ways to do> things but you have to obey orders - structure and order is good up to a> point, but if it deviates from what helps you survive then it become more of> a hinderence.

I'd have real trouble taking orders - I'd want to argue all the time and
I would probably self destruct with all the arguing.
FAO of HM Government - thanks for the poor fitting woolen trousers and> jumpers to go with the classy nylon shirts - hate the feel of those clothes> now -generally dress in what I find next to the bed and then wear it to bed.> My wife no longer buys herself woolen clothes because I will not let her> come near me when she wears it.

Ew - wool. don't like it either.

Sarah
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Rapum Lucidum 12 January 2005 04:35:54 permanent link ]
 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:25:59 -0000, "Colin" <bigcol2@btinternet­.com>
wrote:>
Too many of these questions didn't fit me though - but based on my empathy>should I care?>

With the SQ test in particular I find too many of the questions are
too specific. So if someone happens to have interests that align with
the questions they'll score more highly than an equally 'systemising'
person who doesn't.

--
The Luminous Turnip
[professionally self-dx'd AS]
Spectrum code:
AS d- s:- a-- c++>+++ p+>+++ t+(+++) f-(--) S+ p@ e+>+++ h++ r-->+-+-+- n*(+) i+++++ P- m(+) M@
(well depends what day it is really)
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Rapum Lucidum 12 January 2005 04:57:37 permanent link ]
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:48:27 +1100, Graham W
<zebedee@alphalink.­commercial.au> wrote:

I'm going to follow a trend now[1] and take some... and, to be fully
systemising, I'm going to comment on the tests :-)­

SQ: 43 - a typical AS score. I think when I took it once before my
score was much lower. I note that the questions are very specific, and
involved a bit of guessing the intentions behind them. I suspect some
ACs will score lower because their interests are too specific to be
able to say they do all the systematic things listed!

The electrical wiring one: relies also on wiring knowledge and
dexterity! The dream one: which answer is the systemising one? Keeping
in touch with old friends: maybe it's not systemising to do it, but I
do try to keep in touch - I'm systematic about it! If I had a
collection it would be organised: it would be organised in my head,
but EF stuff would mean that it wouldn't be at all organised in
reality! DIY: is systemising supposed to make one meticulous? I'm too
clumsy to be meticulous. When travelling by train: I don't wonder
anything because I already know anything that I might wonder... so my
answer could seem less systemising when in fact it's more so... but
what exactly does 'how the networks are coordinated' mean? I do not
read the manual... sytemising would probably be reading it, but I
don't read it! And I'm ssure many technical type people don't! Buying
a camera... I don't care about hte lens quality! That would seem much
more related to being a photography type person than systemising.

But I think the fact that I've thought about the questions like that
must add to my score :-)­

EQ: 15 - but I've assumed I'm not good at certain things.
I suspect that this increases with learning in some of those ACs who
want to socialise more etc.
If anyone asked for haircut comment etc: I'd porbably not answer
truthfully - I'd just avoid it somehow so that I can avoid both lying
and offending! This thing needs a neutral answer...


[1] wow... ACs in this thread are following trends ;-)­ Systematic
trends, that is.

--
The Luminous Turnip
[professionally self-dx'd AS]
Spectrum code:
AS d- s:- a-- c++>+++ p+>+++ t+(+++) f-(--) S+ p@ e+>+++ h++ r-->+-+-+- n*(+) i+++++ P- m(+) M@
(well depends what day it is really)
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Ares 12 January 2005 05:07:36 permanent link ]
 LOL!!
ares

"Colin" <bigcol2@btinternet­.com> wrote in message
news:34j7bbF48cbohU­1@individual.net...>­ I was thinking of of supersizing an Bacon Double Asp Burger - how much
bacon> would you have to use to seperate two irate Asp's (if they still alive)> Hah! we get to bite the snakes for a change!>
Must pop down to my local Fasp Food Chain and use the Slither Through> facility.>
Colin>


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Molybdenum 12 January 2005 05:52:12 permanent link ]
 Colin wrote:
AQ - 40> EQ -12 (how do I hold down a relationship?)> SQ - 34

Me (Rowe take note!)

AQ 35 (we all know the Magic Number is 32)
EQ 20 (average for women is 47!!!?)
SQ 38 (average for women is 24)

NT all the way!!! :)­

Colin, you and me look like a pretty good match :)­




Monica
time for a little lie down...

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Jamie Dolan 12 January 2005 06:39:26 permanent link ]
 why is that?

--
-Jamie
"Joe S." <booxplode@yahoo.co­m> wrote in message
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jamie dolan wrote:>> I must be really messed up then.>>
Mine was soooo high..>>
Does that mean I am a bad aspie?????????> No, it means most of the rest of us> envy you :)­>
--Joe>


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Jamie Dolan 12 January 2005 06:39:44 permanent link ]
 So is higher better for some reason?

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-Jamie
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"DRosent288" <drosent288@aol.com­> wrote in message> news:20050111031339­.09758.00000035@mb-m­18.aol.com...>> My score was 131--a near-average Aspie.>> alamosaurus@aol.com­>
Mine was 145>
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Jamie Dolan 12 January 2005 06:46:41 permanent link ]
 which one is the Empathy Quotient test?

--
-Jamie
"Mooncat" <mooncatmail@hotmai­l.com> wrote in message
news:P­rZEd.637$0G6.­121@newsfe6-win.ntli­.net...> My God!>
I've just done the Empathy Quotient test and got 12; most men get a rating > of about 42, apparently. The lowest range is 0 - 32, with aspergers > averaging below 20.>
I got 33 in the AQ test. Eighty percent of those diagnosed with autism or > a related disorder scored 32 or higher. I got a score of 59 in the SQ test > as well (men average 30).>
Perhaps I should have a little lie down.>
Mooncat>


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Rapum Lucidum 12 January 2005 07:05:12 permanent