Sunday, 23 July 2006
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| Re: Mark Probert BUSTED..AGAIN Jan Drew 06:46:32 |
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"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:2owwg.36$Sc7.14@fe12.lga...> Jason Johnson wrote:> ,>> I ran across the site while I was looking for something else and did not>> bookmark it or make a note.>
Sure, Jason, sure. Of course. Naturally.,> They were trying to get people to volunteer>> for new studies. It was one of several new studies that was mentioned.>> My first thought was that any mother that would allow their babies to>> be injected with vaccines containing mercury is NOT a good mother.> You came to this group with your mind made up. You asked questions, you > got answers, and, clearly, you were here with your agenda.> As you may know, thimerosal will not be used in vaccines in the very>> near future. Many vaccines no longer contain thimerosal. I don't know why>> they are conducting such a study. The study would have made sense if it >> had been done many years ago when they first started making use of >> thimerosal. You may want to google: "New Research Studies" or Research >> Studies.> Maybe you read it on whale.to. There is a lot of weird stuff there.> Spend some time looking for proof of your claim.
Poor Mark.
http://tinyurl.com/anqqu
Mark Probert Makes Another Claim. Let's See* IF* He Can PROVE It!
You made a claim that you were a licensed babysitter. I was "just curious"?
Re: Researcher (Sandra Cabot) and theWarns of Cancer Risk From rBGH
(non-organic) Dairy Foods
http://tinyurl.com/d4b23
http://tinyurl.com/c3qua
http://tinyurl.com/7985k
http://tinyurl.com/9l6sh
http://tinyurl.com/cyhmt
As I pointed out to the moron, he is far from ill.
You STILL have not shown WHERE you pointed this out!
You made a claim that you were a licensed babysitter. I was "just curious"?
You STILL haven't shown us WHERE I made that claim!
You see, you complained that I called Ilena at her ADVERTISED phone
listing.
You STILL haven't shown WHERE I did any such thing.
The thread started with a claim that vaccines suppress the immune system. >You agreed. Please do copy and paste where I agreed.
You STILL haven't done so.
An one-time troll, screw-loose nutcase posted some diatriber and you now
attack someone who has posted here for years.
Just WHERE did Debbee attack DC?
Please post the attacking!
You STILL haven't been able to do so.
You admitted that you stalked me to asbi. OOOOps. Do copy and paste this >claim.
You STILL haven't been able to do so.
Jul 2 2004
Vaxa has been making claims for years. The FTC/FDA are reviewing them now. > Do show us they are being reviewed. I filed a complaint with the FTC after > I reviewed the URL you posted and saw the egregious violations. If and > when I hear from the FTC, I will let you know.
Jan 9th, 2006
Haley testifies for a fee, ergo, he is a professional expert witness.
You LIED.
You have a LONG LIST of claims, that you have NEVER proven.
You can NOT because they are LIES.
You are NOT H O N E S T!
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| People who have ADD are fucked up sick-in-the-head and completely unrealistic Raving Loonie 04:35:57 |
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Obviously, I have some things far worse than ADD.
That makes me even more fucked up.
Everyone knows it.
I give up.
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| ADD or Executive Dysfunction? Silly Buggers speak. The self inconsistency SCREAMS Raving Loonie 04:04:39 |
| | Executive Dysfunction?
Sure. ( Silly buggers ... )
Executive function is taken for granted.
What {{{{ i s }}}} ' executive function ' ?
Oh. It's what isn't working when someone is being dysfunctional.
<sarcasticon>
Let's get it on and describe the elusive 'Executive function', eh?
To begin, it is necessary to define a model of cognition.
Here is one ....
How does the mind work?
It's like thus ...
1) No thought is an isolated consideration unto itself.
2) Each person has a unique, habitual style of thought which is
remarkably specific. ... a cognitive 'fingerprint'. .. wow.
How does cognition work? (Ignoring the second point for the moment
... )
A thought is more or less a momentary glimpse of reality. It's what a
person perceives now, BANG, at this very fleeting second.
.. and that momentary experience .. that instant's realization of how
things are is lost. A new minute; a new *momentary experience*.
Given that a person hops from one momentary glimpse of reality to the
next ... minute by minute; hour by hour; ...
It ought to be evident that that's momentary experience of 'Realizing
life to it's fullest' isn't a very precise or detailed item. Frankly,
it's rather limited, crude, approximate, and hugely subjective.
Most of all, it's not very reliable.
A momentary thought is rather crappy stuff ( relatively speaking ... )
So what is really happening?
Duh. ...
It's not just that momentary limited realization of reality ....
There is far, far , far more to cognition than the attentional focus .
( I want to scream. I live in a society of such stupid, silly buggers
... )
It's not just about that moment's passing thought/experience ...
It IS about taking that moments thought and putting context to it ...
It is about taking that moment's thought/experience and having an
appreciation of how it is tied into .. how it is connected to an
accumulating lifetime of momentary experiences.
A thought is not just a thought ... It's worth .. it's meaning ..
it's significance is very deeply dependent of how the person
appreciates that thought relative to cumulative experience of a life
time.
There is more than attentional focus ... There is "How the focus of
one's attention is related to a lifetime of experience and memories.
(To be continued ... )
P.S. Please give me a day or two before responding to this thread.
Cordially,
RL
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| Oh grow up and behave! Wingingit 00:14:00 |
| | Ya bunch of wankers. Don't you have anything better AT ALL to do????
What rot.
all snipped, as none of it is worthwhile summer reading
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Saturday, 22 July 2006
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| Re: Wake up call for Marcia Jan Drew 23:56:45 |
| | You were already defending Kitten.
Anything else you would like to lie about??
"Marcia" <design1@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1153591524.052565.93590@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...>
Jan Drew wrote:>> "Marcia" <design1@insight.rr.com> wrote in message>> news:1153529862.548201.19880@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...>> > Excuse me. I have NO faith in your ability to be truthful.>> >> Nor see the lies, abuse and behavior of certain people.>> > Well, then, I take that to mean you're done with me and I'm going in>> > your killfile. Right?>> > LOL! You learned that from your buddy....Mark Probert.>> Unlike..YOU I do not lie.> Oh, please. I'm sure intelligent people can clearly see this whole> topic was a manipulative set-up to lure me into defending Kitten, which> you *knew* I would do (and pretty much admitted), so you could "expose"> me as a "liar and hypocrite." You intentionally created a situation> designed to antagonize, and I knew this *before* answering your post.> So did you.> I know you will deny it, but almost everyone else can see your> manipulations for what they are.> I tried to ignore you and did a pretty good job maintaining my end of> the peace until you pulled this little trick. You created a no-win> situation and I chose to respond, rather than ignore you, because you> attempted to defame an innocent person. I don't like bullies.> Is this going to be your tactic from now on? Who will be your next> target? Or do you intend to keep the pressure on Kitten, exclusively?> Or is this an attempt to draw Mark back into fighting with you?> ** I'm not going to stoop to her level any more, respond to her >> posts*****> Excuse me, but you posted directly *to* me (although you misspelled my> name). If you had respected the fact that I was ignoring your posts,> you would have left me alone. I repeat, this was a set-up.> In the past I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, to an> extent, because I thought you were simply opinionated and rigid, and a> little on the nutty side of extreme. But I've had enough experience> with you now to understand you're manipulative, mean, and intent on> hurting people who either disagree with you or don't meet your bizarre> and impossible standards. Of course, you will deny this as well, but> your actions are transparent. The only person you're fooling is> yourself.> I will stipulate to the fact that you think I'm a liar and a hypocrite,> and I expect that to be a theme of future posts to or about me. I can> handle it. This is Usenet; rant on.  > marcia>
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| Re: Why do ASAD's polymorphous parade of... yadda.. yadda... yadda... Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe 18:51:24 |
| | From: Raving Loonie - view profile>Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe wrote:>> Mark Probert wrote:>> > Raving Loonie wrote:
<snipped>>> > > What were you expecting, a forkfull of spaghetti al dente?>> > with white clam sauce!>> I made shrimp sauce the other day.>
You do realize that my whole intent, here is to get you (and others )>to 'lighten up' and ...> ... read>... infer>... listen>... recognize>... accept> <snipped> with much less 'gravity'.> I find that when I take her in such a light, glancing, superficial,>incidental, sense ...> <snipped> makes some sense.
Some ghostly tidbits for your efforts, thanks to a "little birdie" who
emailed me...
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.net-people?lnk=sg
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.tourette/browse_frm/thread/1718dcb5b40fb345/9c9bac111ad91f70#9c9bac111ad91f70
Kitten
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| The awakening of the public and the coming overthrow of evil Jan Drew 09:12:31 |
| | http://www.newstarget.com/z019702.html
NewsTarget.com printable article
Originally published July 20 2006
The awakening of the public and the coming overthrow of evil
Many people recognize what's really happening in the world of health and
medicine today: Increasing disease, unabated disease mongering, corporate
exploitation of the people, environmental destruction, a decline in honest
health journalism, skyrocketing health care costs, tens of millions of
uninsured people and continued assaults on health freedom by the FDA and
conventional medicine. These are just a few of the many challenges that
concern the lucid, thinking people who now populate Internet blogs, chat
rooms and websites.
But along with these shared concerns, there is also emerging a consensus
that our shared future does not have to follow the pattern of our recent
past. Together, we can create positive change, and it all starts from the
day-to-day grind of observing what's happening in the world, applying some
critical thinking, and sharing our thoughts, ideas, concerns and solutions
with others.
Each day that I have an opportunity to engage in this work, I feel deeply
honored. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to humbly serve in this
important role of taking part in a global paradigm shift that may yet allow
us to find true freedom, health and prosperity. I also invite you to join
this effort in any way that you are able: To become a blogger, a writer or a
video commentator so that your voice may be heard and your ideas may
encourage others to find their own voice.
Some people say we are trapped under a system of near-total control. But
there are no prisons other than the ones we have agreed to impose upon
ourselves and each other. All that is required for truly radical reform in
health, politics or any area is the spread of a single, powerful idea that
dismantles old limiting beliefs and unleashes new possibilities, new ways of
thinking, and new solutions to our most pressing challenges.
We all depend on each other
In times of great change, community is more important than ever. We must
form alliances and organize ourselves to speak with a single, powerful
voice. For my part, I'm forming important alliances with other positive
influencers and leaders in complementary fields like environmental
protection, sustainable farming, animal welfare, self improvement and
renewable energy. Together, we can help bring genuine solutions to the
forefront and challenge the outmoded thinking of the current global power
brokers, replacing it with community-minded, holistic solutions that
recognize the interdependency of all living beings and systems on this
planet.
All this isn't new-age hippie talk (not that there's anything wrong with
that!), it's just blatant reality: We all depend on nature -- the soils,
waterways, air, oceans, animals and microorganisms. We all depend on each
other. And we cannot create a world of genuine abundance by fighting wars
over natural resources, poisoning our children with psychotropic drugs,
injecting toxic chemicals into the food supply, dripping fluoride into
public waters, injecting babies with mercury-laced vaccines and drugging our
population with harmful medications all while calling it "economic growth"
because money happened to change hands.
There is no abundance to be found in selling each other increasingly
expensive toxic chemicals to treat the degenerative diseases we have caused
ourselves through the proliferation of similar toxic chemicals in the first
place. We are fooling ourselves if we believe we can retire rich by
investing in pharmaceutical company stocks, pushing fictitious diseases,
enforcing a monopoly drug market and "treating" each other until we're all
rich and dead. There is no true wealth without health, and there is no
health without prevention -- a concept that remains utterly absent from the
philosophy of modern medicine today, including virtually all the non-profit
cancer groups and disease organizations.
Live together or die together
We must find a better way to live together, or we will die together. And it
doesn't matter whether you're a Republican, a Democrat, a Green Party
advocate or a Libertarian. A toxic planet destroys us all just the same.
Until we remove the toxic load from our foods, drugs, household cleaners,
medications, cosmetics, personal care products and work environments, we
will continue to die from preventable diseases and give birth to mutant
babies who may never have the opportunity to experiencing a life free of
disease.
Pharmaceuticals will never, ever save us. No matter how many billions of
dollars are poured into cancer research, there will never emerge a genuine
solution unless we stop giving ourselves cancer in the first place. Cancer
is caused by too many synthetic chemicals, yet the drug companies promise to
treat it or cure it by developing even more synthetic chemicals. The
intellectual ignorance found in this stubborn, outmoded approach is simply
astonishing.
As Albert Einstein famously said, "We cannot solve our problems with the
same thinking we used when we created them."
A time for real change is approaching
There is hope, however, to be found in a new mode of thinking that's now
beginning to take shape across the "awakened" members of the Internet
community. It's a recognition that exciting changes are now possible, and
that the forces of evil that have been acting upon us for so long --
destroying our health, our environment and our freedom -- are poised to be
overthrown.
We are all living it what may soon be viewed as a time of the most
significant and rapid changes in recent human history. They will not be
without difficulty, however, so be prepared for changes that may far exceed
what you, or your parents, or even your grandparents ever witnessed.
Most importantly, stay engaged in the conversation. Stay informed.
Independent news websites and blogs are now the only remaining sources of
accurate information about what's really happening today. There are far too
many to name, but I've listed a short selection of my favorites in the right
column at www.NewsTarget.com
Be active in what's happening. Teach yourself to stay alert and be a
critical thinker. Question what you are told, especially by those in
positions of authority or apparent power. The bigger the organization from
which any message emerges, the more likely it is to be corrupted by an
ulterior motive (profit, public complacency, etc.) Trust the smaller,
independent organizations like PR Watch, Commercial Alert, the Organic
Consumers Association, the Government Accountability Project and others.
What you do is your own business, but if you want to be engaged in real
solutions, turn off your television. Disconnect from cable and reconnect to
books and informative Internet sites. Buy organic produce and avoid
processed foods. Stop spending money on products made by unethical
corporations. (Vote with your dollars.) Demand accountability from your
elected officials and representatives (including Judges). Learn how to grow
your own food, even if just a little. Get out of the city from time to time
and reconnect with nature on a regular basis. Supplement with nutrients that
enhance mental acuity, intelligence and presence of mind (I highly recommend
supplements from the Life Extension Foundation at www.LEF.org). Practice a
little yoga, Tai-Chi or Pilates. Train your body and your mind to be healthy
and alert.
These are the things that make you a participant in life, rather than a
spectator. These are a few of the things that ultimately help set you free.
Stay alert, because you won't want to miss what's coming.
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| Hurtin' Music ~~~~> "The Effect of Country Music on Suicide" Raving Loonie 08:25:47 |
| | " The Effect of Country Music on Suicide
STEVEN STACK, Wayne State University JIM GUNDLACH, Auburn University
Abstract
This article assesses the link between country music and metropolitan
suicide rates. Country music is hypothesized to nurture a suicidal mood
through its concerns with problems common in the suicidal population,
such as marital discord, alcohol abuse, and alienation from work. The
results of a multiple regression analysis of 49 metropolitan areas show
that the greater the airtime devoted to country music, the greater the
white suicide rate. The effect is independent of divorce, southernness,
poverty, and gun availability. The existence of a country music
subculture is thought to reinforce the link between country music and
suicide. Our model explains 51% of the variance in urban white suicide
rates.
Sociological work on the relationship between art and society has been
largely restricted to speculative, sociohistorical theories that are
often mutually opposed. Some theorists see art as creating social
structure ( Adorno 1973), while Sorokin ( 1937 ) suggests that society
and art are manifested in cyclical autonomous ...
... In this article, we explore the link between a particular form of
popular music (country music) and metropolitan suicide rates. We
contend that the themes found in country music foster a suicidal mood
among people already at risk of suicide and that it is thereby
associated with a high suicide rate. The effect is buttressed by the
country subculture and a link between this subculture and a racial
status related to an increased suicide risk."
See http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=95183303
Also see http://www.improb.com/ig/ig-pastwinners.html#ig2004
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| Oxidative Stress / pathogenesis of autism Ironjustice@Aol.Com 05:22:23 |
| | Pathophysiology
Volume 13, Issue 3 , August 2006, Pages 171-181
Oxidative Stress and Metabolic diseases
doi:10.1016/j.pathophys.2006.05.007
Copyright В© 2006 Elsevier Ireland Ltd All rights reserved.
Review
Oxidative stress in autism
Abha Chauhan, a, and Ved Chauhana
aNYS Institute for Basic Research in Developmental Disabilities, 1050
Forest Hill Road, Staten Island, NY 10314, USA
Available online 12 June 2006.
Abstract
Autism is a severe developmental disorder with poorly understood
etiology. Oxidative stress in autism has been studied at the membrane
level and also by measuring products of lipid peroxidation, detoxifying
agents (such as glutathione), and antioxidants involved in the defense
system against reactive oxygen species (ROS). Lipid peroxidation
markers are elevated in autism, indicating that oxidative stress is
increased in this disease. Levels of major antioxidant serum proteins,
namely transferrin (iron-binding protein) and ceruloplasmin
(copper-binding protein), are decreased in children with autism. There
is a positive correlation between reduced levels of these proteins and
loss of previously acquired language skills in children with autism.
The alterations in ceruloplasmin and transferrin levels may lead to
abnormal iron and copper metabolism in autism. The membrane
phospholipids, the prime target of ROS, are also altered in autism. The
levels of phosphatidylethanolamine (PE) are decreased, and
phosphatidylserine (PS) levels are increased in the erythrocyte
membrane of children with autism as compared to their unaffected
siblings. Several studies have suggested alterations in the activities
of antioxidant enzymes such as superoxide dismutase, glutathione
peroxidase, and catalase in autism. Additionally, altered glutathione
levels and homocysteine/methionine metabolism, increased inflammation,
excitotoxicity, as well as mitochondrial and immune dysfunction have
been suggested in autism. Furthermore, environmental and genetic
factors may increase vulnerability to oxidative stress in autism. Taken
together, these studies suggest increased oxidative stress in autism
that may contribute to the development of this disease. A mechanism
linking oxidative stress with membrane lipid abnormalities,
inflammation, aberrant immune response, impaired energy metabolism and
excitotoxicity, leading to clinical symptoms and pathogenesis of autism
is proposed.
Keywords: Autism; Pervasive developmental disorders; Oxidative stress;
Lipid peroxidation; Immune response; Inflammation; Mitochondrial
dysfunction; Excitotoxicity
Corresponding author. Tel.: +1 718 494 5258; fax: +1 718 698 7916.
Pathophysiology
Volume 13, Issue 3 , August 2006, Pages 171-181
Oxidative Stress and Metabolic diseases
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Prostaglandins Leukot Essent Fatty Acids. 2005 Aug 2; [Epub ahead of
print] Related Articles, Links
Increased excretion of a lipid peroxidation biomarker in autism.
Ming X, Stein TP, Brimacombe M, Johnson WG, Lambert GH, Wagner GC.
Department of Neurosciences, UMDNJ-New Jersey Medical School, 90 Bergen
Street, Suite 8100, Newark, NJ 07103, USA; Department of Pediatrics,
Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Center for Childhood
Neurotoxicology and Exposure Assessment, New Brunswick, NJ, USA.
It is thought that autism could result from an interaction between
genetic and environmental factors with oxidative stress as a potential
mechanism linking the two. One genetic factor may be altered
oxidative-reductive capacity. This study tested the hypothesis that
children with autism have increased oxidative stress. We evaluated
children with autism for the presence of two oxidative stress
biomarkers. Urinary excretion of 8-hydroxy-2-deoxyguanosine (8-OHdG)
and 8-isoprostane-F2alpha (8-iso-PGF2alpha) were determined in 33
children with autism and 29 healthy controls. 8-iso-PGF2alpha levels
were significantly higher in children with autism. The isoprostane
levels in autistic subjects were variable with a bimodal distribution.
The majority of autistic subjects showed a moderate increase in
isoprostane levels while a smaller group of autistic children showed
dramatic increases in their isoprostane levels. There was a trend of an
increase in 8-OHdG levels in children with autism but it did not reach
statistical significance. There was no significant correlation between
the levels of the biomarkers and vitamin intake, dietary supplements,
medicine, medical disorders, or history of regression. These results
suggest that the lipid peroxidation biomarker is increased in this
cohort of autistic children, especially in the subgroup of autistic
children.
PMID: 16081262 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]
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Med Hypotheses. 2003 Aug;61(2):220-2. Related Articles, Links
Excess dietary iron is the root cause for increase in childhood autism
and allergies.
Padhye U.
2990 River Meadows, Canton, Michigan 48188, USA.
Autism is a profoundly and poorly understood developmental disorder
that impairs a person's social and communication abilities. I propose a
hypothesis that the excessive dietary iron consumed by today's infants
is the root cause of increased cases of Autism, allergies and other
childhood diseases. Iron is a powerful immune system modulator. Excess
iron causes hyperactive immune system. This hyperactive immune system
attacks undigested food peptides. The chemicals released during these
intense allergic reactions can damage surrounding tissue.
Neurodegeneration is caused by combination of, oxidative stress induced
by free iron radicals and intense immune reactions. Iron chelators have
shown beneficial results in Autism and allergies.
Publication Types:
Review
Review, Tutorial
PMID: 12888307 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
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Friday, 21 July 2006
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| Please... Twittering One 23:22:47 |
| | ...return to you cage.
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| New Baby Pics! Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe 09:31:57 |
| | The first three are of Monkey, healthy and doing well.
The rest are of the new baby, including one of Marcia teaching her some
bad manners.
http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=6f3c1usr.8vngcwir&x=0&h=1&y=-r36dx8
Kitten
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| nescience <~~~ The agony of ADD is the nescience of society Raving Loonie 00:03:50 |
| | Word of the Day for Thursday July 20, 2006
nescience \NESH-uhn(t)s; NESH-ee-uhn(t)s\, noun:
Lack of knowledge or awareness; ignorance.
The ancients understood that too much knowledge could actually
impede human functioning -- this at a time when the encroachments on
global nescience were comparatively few.
-- Cullen Murphy, "DNA Fatigue", The Atlantic, November 1997
He fought on our behalf in the war that finally matters: against
nescience, against inadvertence, against the supposition that anything
is anything else.
-- Hugh Kenner, "On the Centenary of James Joyce", New York Times,
January 31, 1982
The notion has taken hold that every barometric fluctuation must
demonstrate climate change. This anecdotal case for global warming is
mostly nonsense, driven by nescience of a basic point, from statistics
and probability, that the weather is always weird somewhere.
-- Gregg Easterbrook, "Warming Up", The New Republic, November 8,
1999
Nescience is from Latin nescire, "not to know," from ne-, "not" +
scire, "to know." It is related to science. Nescient is the adjective
form.
http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/archive/2006/07/20.html
(Another useless posting brought to you by the Raving Loonie )
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Thursday, 20 July 2006
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| Anyone know of any Seattle area ADD/ADHD support groups? Tw 02:35:59 |
| | I found one through chadd.org but they don't have any meetings
scheduled until September. Any others? Thanks
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| Parents Need Info On Online ADHD Meds Quirkyjoe 00:29:05 |
| | I am sorry if this topic has come up before.
We want to explore the option of getting Ritalin and Adderall online
for our child.
Can anyone suggest good web sites that they have used and they can
trust?
Also any experiences (good or bad) with getting meds online would be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Wednesday, 19 July 2006
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| ASAD quote 1/16/03 (repeat) MothWrangler 23:01:48 |
| | Conform and be dull.
--J. Frank Roble
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Tuesday, 18 July 2006
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| ASAD quote 1/13/03 (repeat) MothWrangler 21:28:23 |
| | Procrastination is my sin,
It brings me naught but sorrow,
I know that I should stop it,
In fact, I will--tomorrow!
--Gloria Pitzer
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