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GYXE > Attention deficit > What's It Like To Have ADD? 13 August 2006 23:05:40

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P E R W I L D A U 13 August 2006 23:05:40
 Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe wrote in

http://tinyurl.com/­kegrm
What's It Like To Have ADD?> >
Is it like this?:> >
LOL... that's how it is for some. What made me smile the most from> that article was the paragraph about waiting in lines. I have no> problem waiting in lines, especially not at the grocery store. I scan> the covers of *all* the magazines within eye-shot. I twist and turn.> I rock back and forth.

What would happen if something or someone (perhaps yourself) prevented
you from twisting and turning?
Rocking back and forth. I imagine you would experience some kind of
anxiety?
I look around for anyone I know to whom I can> talk for a minute. I mentally go through the things I'm buying and> wonder what I've forgotten and wonder if I really should get those> things that weren't on my list. I fidget. I look at all the candy on> the end-cap of the aisle to decide whether or not I want to give in and> buy some chocolate. I look at the drink cooler on the other end-cap> and decide whether or not I want to buy something to drink. I twist> and turn some more. All that within the first two minutes in line.>
Today, when I'd finished doing all that at least a couple times each, I> was finally close enough to the register that I could put my hands on> the edge of the counter. It had a lip going vertically, to keep things> from falling off the conveyor. Perfect for grabbing hold of and idling> rocking back and forth, letting myself rock back to arms length, then> pulling myself back to the counter's edge, while waiting for the lady> in line ahead of me to finish with her purchases. I was in line less> than 5 minutes.

Perhaps 'waiting in lines', more than any other situation, is the
situation where ADHD manifests itself.

Some research has proposed that people with ADHD have faster internal
clocks than those not affected. For example an ADHD child might be
likely to estimate that five minutes have elapsed when only four
minutes has actually elapsed and further this individual would be more
likely to maintain that she had waited ten minutes when, in actuality,
only eight minutes had elapsed.

So on an experiential level people with ADHD wait longer in lines, than
people without ADHD.

P E R W I L D A U
I am a Danish psychologist. You can find me in the in ?…rhus here:
http://tinyurl.com/­rnhsu

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Linda 12 August 2006 00:53:05 permanent link ]
 
"P E R W I L D A U" <no_mail@ofir.dk> wrote in message
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Some research has proposed that people with ADHD have faster internal
clocks than those not affected.

-------------------­-------
What research?

As your assertion contradicts previous research which concluded people with
ADHD lack the capacity to realistically estimate the passage of time-period.


BTW----you were 100% correct that the formal name coined for the symptoms of
ADHD was Mimimal Brain Damage....

Someone named Krauss or Strauss coined the name Minimal Brain Damage around
1947 and it became THE name for symptoms of ADHD from 1950 to 1960.

However, when researchers failed to locate any evidence of the alleged
brain damage by 1960, some neurologists began referring to it informally as
minimal brain dysfunction instead of minimal brain damage--- which
continued until everyone began calling it hyperkinetic disorder----then,
later attention deficit-hyperactivi­ty disorder .....etc.


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P E R W I L D A U 12 August 2006 01:50:26 permanent link ]
 
Linda skrev:
"P E R W I L D A U" <no_mail@ofir.dk> wrote in message> news:1155326991.898­195.94140@75g2000cwc­.googlegroups.com...­> Some research has proposed that people with ADHD have faster internal> clocks than those not affected.>
-------------------­-------> What research?

http://www.tcd.ie/P­sychiatry/Neuropsych­iatry/adhd6.htm
As your assertion contradicts previous research which concluded people with> ADHD lack the capacity to realistically estimate the passage of time-period.

Isn't that what I just wrote?
BTW----you were 100% correct that the formal name coined for the symptoms of> ADHD was Mimimal Brain Damage....>
Someone named Krauss or Strauss coined the name Minimal Brain Damage around> 1947 and it became THE name for symptoms of ADHD from 1950 to 1960.>
However, when researchers failed to locate any evidence of the alleged> brain damage by 1960, some neurologists began referring to it informally as> minimal brain dysfunction instead of minimal brain damage--- which> continued until everyone began calling it hyperkinetic disorder----then,> later attention deficit-hyperactivi­ty disorder .....etc.

I think your right about that.

Per

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Raving Loonie 12 August 2006 02:41:32 permanent link ]
 P E R W I L D A U wrote:> Some research has proposed that people with ADHD have faster internal> clocks than those not affected. ...
Those with ADD are big on ...

C O N T E X T


It works FASTER than the speed of light.


... actually

Change the context and one changes everything; everywhere, in the blink
of an eye.

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Linda 12 August 2006 03:09:50 permanent link ]
 
"P E R W I L D A U" <no_mail@ofir.dk> wrote in message
news:1155333026.428­214.264430@b28g2000c­wb.googlegroups.com.­..>
Linda skrev:>
"P E R W I L D A U" <no_mail@ofir.dk> wrote in message>> news:1155326991.898­195.94140@75g2000cwc­.googlegroups.com...­>> Some research has proposed that people with ADHD have faster internal>> clocks than those not affected.>>
-------------------­------->> What research?>
As your assertion contradicts previous research which concluded people >> with>> ADHD lack the capacity to realistically estimate the passage of >> time-period.>
Isn't that what I just wrote?

yes and no.

Yes.....your theory acknowledges inability to realistically estimate passage
of time....

No----because you are suggesting it's on account of a faster internal
clock.....

implying their unrealistic estimates would all fall one way...

I'm 100% certain while hyperfocusing on a task, a person with ADHD may lose
ALL track of time---and, may underestimate passage of time BIG TIME.


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Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe 12 August 2006 03:19:36 permanent link ]
 
P E R W I L D A U wrote:> Linda skrev:>
"P E R W I L D A U" <no_mail@ofir.dk> wrote in message> > news:1155326991.898­195.94140@75g2000cwc­.googlegroups.com...­> > Some research has proposed that people with ADHD have faster internal> > clocks than those not affected.> >
-------------------­-------> > What research?>
As your assertion contradicts previous research which concluded people with> > ADHD lack the capacity to realistically estimate the passage of time-period.>
Isn't that what I just wrote?>


:-)­

Kitten

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Linda 12 August 2006 03:26:23 permanent link ]
 
"P E R W I L D A U" <no_mail@ofir.dk> wrote in message
news:1155333026.428­214.264430@b28g2000c­wb.googlegroups.com.­..>
Linda skrev:>
"P E R W I L D A U" <no_mail@ofir.dk> wrote in message>> news:1155326991.898­195.94140@75g2000cwc­.googlegroups.com...­>> Some research has proposed that people with ADHD have faster internal>> clocks than those not affected.>>
-------------------­------->> What research?>


Ha!

That's PROPOSED research......by someone looking for evidence to support
their pet theory.

I believe empirical data has been published which concluded people with aDHD
have no concept of time...period.!



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Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe 12 August 2006 04:00:33 permanent link ]
 
P E R W I L D A U wrote:> Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe wrote in>
What's It Like To Have ADD?> > >
Is it like this?:> > >
LOL... that's how it is for some. What made me smile the most from> > that article was the paragraph about waiting in lines. I have no> > problem waiting in lines, especially not at the grocery store. I scan> > the covers of *all* the magazines within eye-shot. I twist and turn.> > I rock back and forth.>
What would happen if something or someone (perhaps yourself) prevented> you from twisting and turning?> Rocking back and forth. I imagine you would experience some kind of> anxiety?


Anxiety? Oh, you could say that. ;-)­

I look around for anyone I know to whom I can> > talk for a minute. I mentally go through the things I'm buying and> > wonder what I've forgotten and wonder if I really should get those> > things that weren't on my list. I fidget. I look at all the candy on> > the end-cap of the aisle to decide whether or not I want to give in and> > buy some chocolate. I look at the drink cooler on the other end-cap> > and decide whether or not I want to buy something to drink. I twist> > and turn some more. All that within the first two minutes in line.> >
Today, when I'd finished doing all that at least a couple times each, I> > was finally close enough to the register that I could put my hands on> > the edge of the counter. It had a lip going vertically, to keep things> > from falling off the conveyor. Perfect for grabbing hold of and idling> > rocking back and forth, letting myself rock back to arms length, then> > pulling myself back to the counter's edge, while waiting for the lady> > in line ahead of me to finish with her purchases. I was in line less> > than 5 minutes.>
Perhaps 'waiting in lines', more than any other situation, is the> situation where ADHD manifests itself.


Actually, no. That's just a really *obvious* place, and one that's
more easily dealt with.

Some research has proposed that people with ADHD have faster internal> clocks than those not affected. For example an ADHD child might be> likely to estimate that five minutes have elapsed when only four> minutes has actually elapsed and further this individual would be more> likely to maintain that she had waited ten minutes when, in actuality,> only eight minutes had elapsed.>
So on an experiential level people with ADHD wait longer in lines, than> people without ADHD.


Actually, to put it in science fiction terms, it's kinda like entering
a worm hole and not knowing how far you've jumped when you come out the
other end. Did you go only a couple miles, or did you go a couple
light years? You don't know until you re-orient yourself.

Kitten

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Ann 12 August 2006 05:04:43 permanent link ]
 "Linda" <indomitable2@netze­ro.com> expounded:
Ha!>
That's PROPOSED research......by someone looking for evidence to support >their pet theory.

As opposed to one of Linda's pet theories....>
I believe empirical data has been published which concluded people with aDHD >have no concept of time...period.!

Strange, but that's a blanket statement I've never heard. I have a
firm grasp of time, it just keeps getting away from me ;->
--
Ann
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Linda 12 August 2006 06:26:54 permanent link ]
 
"Ann" <annbal@newsguy.com­> wrote in message
news:18aqd29176j6iq­98r52gjqsjl7scjkhnji­@4ax.com...> "Linda" <indomitable2@netze­ro.com> expounded:>
Ha!>>
That's PROPOSED research......by someone looking for evidence to support>>their pet theory.>
As opposed to one of Linda's pet theories....

False.

It was published research.

Which dumbfounded me..

Because, a person having no realistic sense of time

Never realizes they have no realistic sense of time.

How could they?




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Dj 12 August 2006 09:24:21 permanent link ]
 A crucial area of the brain is the frontal lobe. The frontal lobe,
located nearest the forehead, is the where the brain weighs
alternatives before deciding on a course of action. It is also
important for maintaining attention. Another important area, (the
striatum) plays a key role in translating impulses into an action.

These areas of the brain (and many others) are connected through a
complex network of neurons. Neurons communicate with each other by
giving off tiny amounts of certain chemicals called neurotransmitters
into the spaces between the neurons (the synapses). ADHD has been
connected with abnormal levels of two neurotransmitters--­dopamine and
norepinephrine--tha­t play a major role in this network.

There is a lot of evidence that links ADHD to problems in the
norepinephrine and dopamine neurons that connect the frontal lobe and
the striatum. Not surprisingly, the medications most commonly used to
treat ADHD have their main effect on the levels of dopamine and
norepinephrine in the synapses of the brain.

DEAL WITH THE FACT THAT YOUR BRAIN IS DIFFERENT THAN 65% OF THE
POPULATION.



Linda wrote:> "P E R W I L D A U" <no_mail@ofir.dk> wrote in message> news:1155326991.898­195.94140@75g2000cwc­.googlegroups.com...­> Some research has proposed that people with ADHD have faster internal> clocks than those not affected.>
-------------------­-------> What research?>
As your assertion contradicts previous research which concluded people with> ADHD lack the capacity to realistically estimate the passage of time-period.>
BTW----you were 100% correct that the formal name coined for the symptoms of> ADHD was Mimimal Brain Damage....>
Someone named Krauss or Strauss coined the name Minimal Brain Damage around> 1947 and it became THE name for symptoms of ADHD from 1950 to 1960.>
However, when researchers failed to locate any evidence of the alleged> brain damage by 1960, some neurologists began referring to it informally as> minimal brain dysfunction instead of minimal brain damage--- which> continued until everyone began calling it hyperkinetic disorder----then,> later attention deficit-hyperactivi­ty disorder .....etc.

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Ann 12 August 2006 14:07:51 permanent link ]
 "Linda" <indomitable2@netze­ro.com> expounded:
"Ann" <annbal@newsguy.com­> wrote in message >news:18aqd29176j6i­q98r52gjqsjl7scjkhnj­i@4ax.com...>> "Linda" <indomitable2@netze­ro.com> expounded:>>
Ha!>>>
That's PROPOSED research......by someone looking for evidence to support>>>their pet theory.>>
As opposed to one of Linda's pet theories....>
False.>
It was published research.>
Which dumbfounded me..>
Because, a person having no realistic sense of time>
Never realizes they have no realistic sense of time.>
How could they?>
Published....this post is 'published'. Anyone can have a published
agenda.
--
Ann
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Linda 12 August 2006 22:38:30 permanent link ]
 
"Ann" <annbal@newsguy.com­> wrote in message
news:03ard2pesque17­2vt8ilvdpmo54un4j8h0­@4ax.com...> "Linda" <indomitable2@netze­ro.com> expounded:>
"Ann" <annbal@newsguy.com­> wrote in message>>news:18aqd­29176j6iq98r52gjqsjl­7scjkhnji@4ax.com...­>>> "Linda" <indomitable2@netze­ro.com> expounded:>>>
Ha!>>>>
That's PROPOSED research......by someone looking for evidence to support>>>>their pet theory.>>>
As opposed to one of Linda's pet theories....>>
False.>>
It was published research.>>
Which dumbfounded me..>>
Because, a person having no realistic sense of time>>
Never realizes they have no realistic sense of time.>>
How could they?>>
Published....this post is 'published'. Anyone can have a published> agenda.

You are way off base.


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Ann 13 August 2006 21:42:17 permanent link ]
 "Linda" <indomitable2@netze­ro.com> expounded:
"Ann" <annbal@newsguy.com­> wrote in message >news:03ard2pesque1­72vt8ilvdpmo54un4j8h­0@4ax.com...>> "Linda" <indomitable2@netze­ro.com> expounded:>>
"Ann" <annbal@newsguy.com­> wrote in message>>>news:18aq­d29176j6iq98r52gjqsj­l7scjkhnji@4ax.com..­.>>>> "Linda" <indomitable2@netze­ro.com> expounded:>>>>
Ha!>>>>>
That's PROPOSED research......by someone looking for evidence to support>>>>>their pet theory.>>>>
As opposed to one of Linda's pet theories....>>>
False.>>>
It was published research.>>>
Which dumbfounded me..>>>
Because, a person having no realistic sense of time>>>
Never realizes they have no realistic sense of time.>>>
How could they?>>>
Published....this post is 'published'. Anyone can have a published>> agenda.>
You are way off base.>
If I'm off the base you're on, then I'm right on target.
--
Ann
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Linda 13 August 2006 23:05:40 permanent link ]
 
"Ann" <annbal@newsguy.com­> wrote in message
news:d3pud2l17l93rc­vac7bibcuv17m37ie1fj­@4ax.com...> "Linda" <indomitable2@netze­ro.com> expounded:>
"Ann" <annbal@newsguy.com­> wrote in message>>news:03ard­2pesque172vt8ilvdpmo­54un4j8h0@4ax.com...­>>> "Linda" <indomitable2@netze­ro.com> expounded:>>>
"Ann" <annbal@newsguy.com­> wrote in message>>>>news:18a­qd29176j6iq98r52gjqs­jl7scjkhnji@4ax.com.­..>>>>> "Linda" <indomitable2@netze­ro.com> expounded:>>>>>
Ha!>>>>>>
That's PROPOSED research......by someone looking for evidence to >>>>>>support>>>>>>­their pet theory.>>>>>
As opposed to one of Linda's pet theories....>>>>
False.>>>>
It was published research.>>>>
Which dumbfounded me..>>>>
Because, a person having no realistic sense of time>>>>
Never realizes they have no realistic sense of time.>>>>
How could they?>>>>
Published....this post is 'published'. Anyone can have a published>>> agenda.>>
You are way off base.>>
If I'm off the base you're on, then I'm right on target.

.

Yawn.





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