Sunday, 7 January 2007
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| Who had ADD treatment for more then 20 years? Steven 12:05:54 |
| | I am seeking someone who had ADD treatment with meds for more then 20
years. Especially treatment with ritalin. I want to know your
experiences of using these meds on the long run.
Thank you for your reply.
Steven
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Friday, 17 November 2006
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| Cyclert vs Concerta Vs adderall Jamie Dolan 04:44:54 |
| | Cyclert vs Concerta Vs adderall
Pro's Cons?
The Good the Bad the Ugly?
I really want something that lasts about 16 hours in one dose.
Thanks!
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-Jamie
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Monday, 14 August 2006
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| Koocher's Kooks aka the Amer. Psychological Assoc don't know right from wrong Linda 09:28:47 |
| | Koocher's Kooks aka the Amer. Psychological Association reacted to some
members demands the APA stop turning a blind eye to psychologists
participation in torture by punting.
Rather than take an unequivacal position against torture and
terrorism;..the APA made an unequivacal re-affirmation of it's substanceless
1986 Resolution against Torture.
As everyone knows, the substancelessness of the 1986 Resolution against
Torture enabled the APA to turn a blind eye to psychologists organizing
vigilante stalking of ordinary US citizens on usenet, in addition to
turning a blind eye to psycholoigsts participation in the torture of
detainees in Abu Gharib, Guatanomo, etc.
I personally used the resolution the APA passed in 1986 against torture as
the basis for my request the APA investigate the unethical and unlawful
vigilante stalking organized by psychologists misusing Behavioral Cognitive
Science techniques they called LART to terrorize ordinary US citizens in
usenet version of the BCST aka Biscuit operatives in Guatanomo, Abu Gharib
etc.
The APA didn't even bother to reply to letter requesting the APA
investigate unethical and unlawful actions of US psychologists organizing
vigilante stalking to TERRORIZE ordinary US citizens.
The APA's unequivacl re-affirmation of a position which is NOT against what
it claims to be against is DECEPTION
Which suggests the APA leadership is conscious US Psychologists are GUILTY
as SIN.
If all 150,000 members of the APA do not denounce the APA Leadership for
this deception, then, every member of the APA need to be referred for
psychiatric treatment because their not knowing right from wrong is prima
facia evidence they are INSANE.
Only CRAZY people would consult people who don't know right from wrong!
Oops!
I forgot.
That's what members of the APA are banking on!
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Sunday, 13 August 2006
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| What's It Like To Have ADD? P E R W I L D A U 23:05:40 |
| | Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe wrote in
http://tinyurl.com/kegrm What's It Like To Have ADD? LOL... that's how it is for some. What made me smile the most from that article was the paragraph about waiting in lines. I have no problem waiting in lines, especially not at the grocery store. I scan the covers of *all* the magazines within eye-shot. I twist and turn. I rock back and forth.
What would happen if something or someone (perhaps yourself) prevented
you from twisting and turning?
Rocking back and forth. I imagine you would experience some kind of
anxiety? I look around for anyone I know to whom I can talk for a minute. I mentally go through the things I'm buying and wonder what I've forgotten and wonder if I really should get those things that weren't on my list. I fidget. I look at all the candy on the end-cap of the aisle to decide whether or not I want to give in and buy some chocolate. I look at the drink cooler on the other end-cap and decide whether or not I want to buy something to drink. I twist and turn some more. All that within the first two minutes in line. Today, when I'd finished doing all that at least a couple times each, I was finally close enough to the register that I could put my hands on the edge of the counter. It had a lip going vertically, to keep things from falling off the conveyor. Perfect for grabbing hold of and idling rocking back and forth, letting myself rock back to arms length, then pulling myself back to the counter's edge, while waiting for the lady in line ahead of me to finish with her purchases. I was in line less than 5 minutes.
Perhaps 'waiting in lines', more than any other situation, is the
situation where ADHD manifests itself.
Some research has proposed that people with ADHD have faster internal
clocks than those not affected. For example an ADHD child might be
likely to estimate that five minutes have elapsed when only four
minutes has actually elapsed and further this individual would be more
likely to maintain that she had waited ten minutes when, in actuality,
only eight minutes had elapsed.
So on an experiential level people with ADHD wait longer in lines, than
people without ADHD.
P E R W I L D A U
I am a Danish psychologist. You can find me in the in ?…rhus here:
http://tinyurl.com/rnhsu
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| Pleasant E-mail Jan Drew 21:56:21 |
| | Just checked my e-mail.
Quick note from T1.
Thanks again for calling!
It meant a lot to me.
More later. I am out now, and must attend
to life's duties ...
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| Osama Bin Laden: The Model Psychiatric Patient Linda 12:47:49 |
| | http://www.psychassault.org/manufacture1.html
Psychiatry's Manufacture of Mindless Mass Murderers.
"Unspeakable acts of terror, torture, and mass murder are not so much the
results of individuals who have lost their minds as they are of individuals
who have lost their conscience. If, indeed, it turns out that the heinous
suicide-attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon are traced to
Osama Bin Laden, and his chief mentor, former psychiatrist Ayman
al-Zawahiri, it would not be the first time psychiatrists had served as the
manipulators behind charismatic, but essentially weak and flawed, human
beings - systematically feeding their hatreds, stroking their egos, and
stripping their consciences - until eventually even the most barbaric act
may appear plausible and rational in the name of some twisted cause."
Beverly K. Eakman
Author
Cloning of the American Mind, 2001
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Saturday, 12 August 2006
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| In the End Dj 23:02:09 |
| | Sometimes songs say it best: Linkin Park "In the End" sure somes up
the phase of the cycle that I am in right now. I have to hear this
song once a day just to remind myself what an idiot I am. Somehow I
just know my life will totally arrange itself in the next year and I
will end up back where I did 8 years ago, and start again, building an
empire that has an internal destruct button, me. I will get it right,
eventually....
Sound familiar?
DJ
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| Re: ??? How do make this symbol? Marcia 18:40:27 |
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??? wrote: DJ wrote: RL, I sometimes tell myself that it's not that part of my brain is slower, it's just that the other part is too fast for the other. That makes me feel better, and usually smarter than those around me for Each individual seems to use their mind in a very distinctive and specific manner. Why should we expect EVERYONE to make equivalent and maximal usage of all parts of their brain? The notion is preposterous.
How do you make that funny little square thing you're using online? You
might want to put something else in the subject line with it, because
on groups every topic shows up as: ???
marcia
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| Setting the record straight with regard to Attention Deficit Disorder Raving Loonie 08:39:30 |
| | When I go to see a physician; I expect that person to have a reasonable
skill set with regard to that for which I am seeking treatment. For
whatever the reason, I now doubt that it is plausible that I should
find a medical practitioner who is reasonably proficient with treating
ADD.
Here is my beef ...
It's called "Attention Deficit Disorder" . If a person were to have
too much "attention"; they might aptly be criticized as having
"Obsessive Compulsive Disorder". Moreover; should the focus of my
attention be seriously unrealistic; I would be tagged as being
psychotic. If my attention held content which wasn't very effective; I
suppose that I might be called 'retarded'. ATTENTION is a very big
deal! It's mostly everything.
Humanity has always been very interested in the pathology of attention.
The topic forms the crux of human intellectual endeavor. Be it
science, art, drama, jurisprudence, religion, entertainment or military
enterprise; ALL of IT is concerned with sorting out "What to believe".
Things are always as they appear to be. Nothing is ever as it seems.
In other words; given that a person's attention is limited, and apt to
be misleading; how best "fill & manage" that singular, blinkered focus?
Attention is EVERYTHING. To say that a person suffers from 'Attention
Deficit Disorder' is to declare that person to be inept in an essential
quality; the main essential quality. Such casualness; such
dismissiveness; such lack of elaboration and qualification; reveals the
ineptitude of those MHP's who treat people with ADD.
How can the record be set straight with regard to Attention Deficit
Disorder?
A place to begin is to start looking at the role that attention plays
within a much bigger picture; to peruse a reality which extends beyond
that of ubiquitous, hypnotic lock-up.
It is time to stop following the bouncing ball.
Cordially,
RL
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| MIssing school assignments was Re: Meds: Welbutrin & Effexor MothWrangler 07:46:42 |
| | Raving Loonie wrote: MothWrangler wrote: | It's really my ADHD son(*) that Raving is calling "clueless." Those are my | son's explanations for his behavior, not mine. I didn't surmise those | explanations, I'm merely relaying them. I have more faith in my son's explanations for his behaviors than I do in Raving's explanations of my son's behaviors. I don't know why you persist in believing all people with ADHD share your particular symptoms or feelings, or why you blame every aspect of your personality and life on ADHD. You seem to be having a little trouble sorting that out. Almost from the start, ASAD posters with ADHD have tried to get Raving to accept that his thoughts about ADHD and its effect on his brain, his life, and his behavior weren't shared by them. But their message doesn't seem to have gotten through. Seems to me that *most* people aren't very good at self-observation. That is what they say ... Do you honestly believe that people are good at observing and understanding their own behavior?
Oh, I know from my many years of experience with him that my OS isn't
always a good self-observer. And, I know that people in general often
don't understand their own behavior.
However, even taking those facts into consideration, when it comes to
the accuracy of a description and explanation of my OS's behaviors
surrounding the issue of his school assignments, if the my only option
is to choose between his explanation and yours, for a number of reasons,
I'm going with his.I think most of them have given up that quest. Sigh. The result of having spent a lifetime of being misconstrued. ... Sooo ADD, eh. ( and NT too, btw! ) Oops. ... I know *nothing* ! -- (*)MW: "Unlike you, I have a clue." RL: "Unlike you, I understand."
Oh, knock it off already with that quote, which you like to repeat in
such a way that others might conclude that I said to you, "Unlike you, I
have a clue." Put the quote, which as I noted was on a t-shirt I've
seen, in context: I was responding to a post about clues from the game
"Clue."
Anyway, if you don't have the clues, then your understanding is more
likely to be just haphazard guesses than logical conclusions. Psst ... One thing MW isn't [ most of the time ] is *clueless*.
Indeed....
Miss Peacock with the candlestick in the library. My mistake. I apologize. Sometime I don't understand, either ... 
Oh, I realize that.
Nancy
Unique, like everyone else
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| Crossposts (was Re: Researchers Improve Screening For Attention Deficit-Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD Vashti 06:07:47 |
| | It wasn't a dark and stormy night when DJ wrote: What's fascinating is how many of you appear to have knowledge of this or that, but you never talk about your own experiences, just flame flame flame.
Hi DJ, don't take it personally: quite a few of the threads here are
crossposted to other groups too, in this case misc.health.alternative so
arguments from over there can get dragged over here... this can drown out
the threads started by ADHDers, friends and family a bit. Don't worry:
there really *are* some ADHDers posting here.
--
Vashti
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| Study: Distractions impede learning Raving Loonie 05:10:25 |
| | By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID, AP Science Writer Tue Jul 25, 12:56 AM ET
WASHINGTON - Your parents were right, don't study with the TV on.
Multitasking may be a necessity in today's fast-paced world, but new
research shows distractions affect the way people learn, making the
knowledge they gain harder to use later on.
The study, in Monday's Proceedings of the
National Academy of Sciences, also provides a clue as to why it
happens.
"What's new is that even if you can learn while distracted, it changes
how you learn to make it less efficient and useful," said Russell A.
Poldrack, a psychology professor at the University of California, Los
Angeles.
That could affect a lot of young people. A study by the Kaiser Family
Foundation last year found third-graders through 12th-graders devoted,
on average, nearly 6 1/2 hours per day to TV and videos, music, video
games and computers.
As Poldrack explains it, the brain learns in two different ways. One,
called declarative learning, involves the medial temporal lobe and
deals with learning active facts that can be recalled and used with
great flexibility. The second, involving the striatum, is called habit
learning.
For instance, in learning a phone number you can simply memorize it,
using declarative learning, and can then recall it whenever needed,
Poldrack explained.
A second way to learn it is by habit, "punch it in 1,000 times, then
even if you don't remember it consciously, you can go to the phone and
punch it in," he said.
Memorizing is a lot more useful, he pointed out. "If you use the habit
system, you have to be at a phone to recreate the movements."
The problem, Poldrack said, is that the two types of learning seem to
be competing with each other, and when someone is distracted, habit
learning seems to take over from declarative learning.
"We have to multitask in today's world, but you have to be aware of
this," he said. "When a kid is trying to learn new concepts, new
information, distraction is going to be bad, it's going to impair their
ability to learn."
That doesn't mean he thinks a silent environment is essential - music
can help in learning because it can make the individual happier, he
said.
But in general, "distraction is almost always a bad thing." ....
See http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060725/ap_on_sc/learning_distractions
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| Re: Woman charged with trying to force 3-year-old son to smoke pot Alan Truism 04:27:01 |
| | BOBOBOnoBOВ® wrote: Woman charged with trying to force 3-year-old son to smoke pot ASSOCIATED PRESS 07/24/2006 MACON, Mo. (AP) -- A Macon woman has been charged with trying to force her three-year-old child to smoke marijuana.
Some forms of attention deficit disorder respond well to cannabis
treatment.
Are you certain this wasn't a medical treatment of some sort?
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| MIssing schoool assignments was Re: Meds: Welbutrin & Effexor MothWrangler 02:57:37 |
| | Karen R. wrote: MothWrangler wrote the following on 8/10/2006 3:18 PM: My OS is a big reader. Always was. He read early, and has always read As I wrote earlier to Vashti, that is half the battle right there. I think DS has read everything that has ever been written.  Seriously, it takes him a few seconds to absorb a page. And he is interested in almost everything. Even though he lacks the diploma, he is possibly better educated than many college grads. I'd still like to see him get that piece of paper, though...
I know what you mean. It's nice to have that college diploma as a
credential to fall back on if you're ever in the position of looking for
work, and employers keep asking for a degree as a minimum qualification.
Attending college doesn't guarantee anyone of a high-paying career, and
not attending college doesn't necessarily doom one to working for
minimum wage, but it seems to me that attending college improves the
odds that one will find employment that pays a living wage.
And lot of people manage to become quite well educated without attending
college, and too many people manage to graduate from college without
becoming educated, but still, all in all, getting a degree probably
never hurts. Among his literary interests, he reads these heavy-duty philosophy books, which I don't claim to understand. My brother majored in philosophy. He sells computers for a living.
I have never had a job in my undergrad major either, yet career-wise,
I've done well in three different careers.
That's why I'm not really concerned about OS majoring in sculpting.
Unlike many parents, I view college as his chance to become more
educated, not necessarily as career training. Even in fiction, his current taste tends towards the deeply philosophical and mystical. I assume he has read Philip Pullman's _His Dark Materials_ series?
I've never heard him mention it, but I can't keep up with his reading.
As I said, he reads a lot.
He frequently tries to broaden my reading by recommending books, or
bringing me some, but I'm *so* far behind in my planned reading. I have
umpteen dozen books that I've bought or been given in my "books to be
read" boxes.
Right now, most of what I read is work related. Interesting, but not
particularly entertaining.
Nancy
Unique, like everyone else
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| "Anti-stupid" pill tested on mice Raving Loonie 02:24:44 |
| | BERLIN (Reuters) - A German scientist has been testing an
"anti-stupidity" pill with encouraging results on mice and fruit flies,
Bild newspaper reported on Saturday.
It said Hans-Hilger Ropers, director at Max-Planck-Institute for
Molecular Genetics in Berlin, has tested a pill thwarting hyperactivity
in certain brain nerve cells, helping stabilise short-term memory and
improve attentiveness.
"With mice and fruit flies we were able to eliminate the loss of
short-term memory," Ropers, 62, is quoted saying in the German
newspaper, which has dubbed it the "world's first anti-stupidity pill."
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/05082006/80-132/anti-stupid-pill-tested-mice.html
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| Final IDEA 2004 regs published--finally MothWrangler 02:20:44 |
| | The U.S. Dept. of Education has finally published the much delayed
regulations for IDEA 2004.
The final regs are scheduled to be printed in the Federal Register on
Aug. 14.
If you are interested and can't wait until they are printed you can
download a copy at: http://www.ed.gov/policy/speced/guid/idea/idea2004.html.
Plan on spending quite a bit of time reading them. The regulations
themselves are 374 pages, plus there are two preambles totaling 1244
pages, and five Appendices (90 pages) for a total of over 1,708 pages.
Nancy
Unique, like everyone else
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