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GYXE > Asthma > Methacholine Challenge 2 May 2008 00:48:05

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Methacholine Challenge

Guest 12 April 2006 03:44:07
 Anyone have any tips on how to ensure the highest probability of
passing a methacholine challenge test without displaying any asthmatic
symptoms, I've heard they have a 10% margin of error for displaying
false positives so I want to do everything possible to boost my chances
of not being labelled an asthmatic. Thanks!

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Bob 12 April 2006 03:52:29 permanent link ]
 On 11 Apr 2006 16:44:07 -0700, wev162@yahoo.com wrote:
Anyone have any tips on how to ensure the highest probability of>passing a methacholine challenge test without displaying any asthmatic>symptoms,­ I've heard they have a 10% margin of error for displaying>false positives so I want to do everything possible to boost my chances>of not being labelled an asthmatic. Thanks!

Just pass the test.
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Aroberts 12 April 2006 07:14:22 permanent link ]
 
<wev162@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1144799047.741­817.286980@j33g2000c­wa.googlegroups.com.­..> Anyone have any tips on how to ensure the highest probability of> passing a methacholine challenge test without displaying any asthmatic> symptoms, I've heard they have a 10% margin of error for displaying> false positives so I want to do everything possible to boost my chances> of not being labelled an asthmatic. Thanks!


If you don't have the disease, you won't need to worry about the label;

if you do have the disease, the label will be the least of your worries...


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Richard Friedel 12 April 2006 10:41:04 permanent link ]
 
wev162@yahoo.com wrote:> Anyone have any tips on how to ensure the highest probability of> passing a methacholine challenge test without displaying any asthmatic> symptoms, I've heard they have a 10% margin of error for displaying> false positives so I want to do everything possible to boost my chances> of not being labelled an asthmatic. Thanks!

According to recent research (Dr. Gwen Skloot of Johns Hopkins Medical
Institution) a non-asthmatic reacts like an asthmatic in a challenge
test if prevented from taking a deep inspiration, i. e. whether the
test is passed or not depends on taking a deep breath.

Energetic alternate nostril breathing (nadi sodhani) might with some
patient training do the trick in an asthmatic (and stop asthma) because
then genuine deep breathing might become available. In alternate
nostril breathing the resistance is doubled. If anything needs to be
labelled it's probably the asthma docs for not understanding the
mechanism behind taking a deep breath, i. e. a certain amount of
airflow resistance in the nose or throat. They don't see any sense in
airflow resistance as such in the respiratory system

So it would healthy and not irresponsible to "cheat" the test in this
way Peace be with ye, Richard Friedel

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00doc 12 April 2006 20:20:55 permanent link ]
 What would really be the best would be to be accurately diagnosed.
Being correctly classified as asthmatic would help get the treatment
you need. Being correctly diagnosed as not asthmatic would help the
docs figure out what really is going on. The worst would be being
misdiagnosed either way.

If your first priority is really to not be termed an asthmatic then the
best strategy would be to not take the test and stay away from doctors.
I'm not sure that would be best for your health but it would accomplish
the goal.

--
00doc

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00doc 13 April 2006 20:42:43 permanent link ]
 Googling "Richard Friedel is a loon" shows over 19,000 hits.

I would have thought it might be more. Keep trying.

--
00doc

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Aroberts 14 April 2006 00:46:34 permanent link ]
 
Googling "Richard Friedel is a loon" shows over 19,000 hits.
I would have thought it might be more. Keep trying.

I believe that he was frightened by bellows at an early age.

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Bob 14 April 2006 01:28:00 permanent link ]
 On 13 Apr 2006 13:46:34 -0700, "aroberts" <a-roberts1@comcast­.net>
wrote:
Googling "Richard Friedel is a loon" shows over 19,000 hits.>
I would have thought it might be more. Keep trying.>
I believe that he was frightened by bellows at an early age.

Who wasn't?

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Aroberts 14 April 2006 08:02:59 permanent link ]
 
"Bob" <drbob4prevention@h­otmail.com> wrote in message
news:lhgt32dkur15da­0tfbau5oj5kis4ucn1s1­@4ax.com...> On 13 Apr 2006 13:46:34 -0700, "aroberts" <a-roberts1@comcast­.net>> wrote:>
Googling "Richard Friedel is a loon" shows over 19,000 hits.>>
I would have thought it might be more. Keep trying.>>
I believe that he was frightened by bellows at an early age.>
Who wasn't?>


Apparently he wasn't as Jeannie-al as he seemed.


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Richard Friedel 14 April 2006 14:48:23 permanent link ]
 Best posting from Dr. Ish since time immorial. Witty and succinct.
Just keep on with the yoga stuff.

See
http://www.yogayoga­.nu/mediyoga/interna­tionell-forskning/mu­skler-motorik/index.­htm
Tapping (typing) improved as well. Regards, Richard Friedel

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Richard Friedel 14 April 2006 14:53:15 permanent link ]
 Should read immemorial

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00doc 14 April 2006 20:40:38 permanent link ]
 "Dr. Bonebrake, Chiropractor, gave me a treatment which should help my
neck."

Who would believe there might be a chiropractor with this name? Next
time try to be more creative.

A few years ago JAMA (I think) had an article listing ironic/humorous
pairings of doctors specialties and names. If you could find it maybe
you guys could form some kind of support group.

--
00doc

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Bob 15 April 2006 00:12:10 permanent link ]
 On 14 Apr 2006 09:40:38 -0700, "00doc" <00doc@comcast.net>­ wrote:
"Dr. Bonebrake, Chiropractor, gave me a treatment which should help my>neck.">
Who would believe there might be a chiropractor with this name? Next>time try to be more creative.

There's my cousin, Dr. Vertebrake, my associates Dr.Torquebrake, Dr.
Discobone (boy, can he dance!) and Dr. Neckacre. A real salty pack of
crackers...
A few years ago JAMA (I think) had an article listing ironic/humorous>pai­rings of doctors specialties and names. If you could find it maybe>you guys could form some kind of support group.

Here's a list from u.arizona, harvested from MEDLIB-L:

http://www.u.arizon­a.edu/~stoddard/doct­or.htm

I'm not sure I want to commiserate with Dr. Wack, Dr Handler, The
Drs. Mash or Dr. Bender.

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Guest 2 May 2008 00:48:05 permanent link ]
 I need to pass my methacholine challenge to go back into the military... anyone have any tips to pass it? I don't need crap answers, just answers that will genuinely help me pass to re-enlist. Thanks for any help that you can give.
- Robert, USMC (once and hopefully again)
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